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What to do: Bulk Ammo (after opening the box)?

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Q: What to do about bulk ammo original packaging that falls apart or starts to take up too much space when the contents get low?

I often buy bulk ammo online.
If there are enough rounds, over time, inevitably the original cardboard box deteriorates to the point where it just isn't worth trying to use it for transport to the range. And when the box gets low, it takes up needed space.

I'm investigating the below as a possible solution and wanted to share it with you:

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Link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075ZYW694
On sale at Amazon now (-30%). $15 with prime membership for the two bags.
One bag is slightly smaller than the other. (FYI).

Mine arrived today, and I plan to try to stuff about 300 rounds of 9mm in the larger one.
I'll report back.

The bags are well made, with what appears to be a very solid zipper.
The bottom of the bags are reinforced, gusseted (to keep them upright), and made of "2520 ballistic material", whatever that is.

I'm familiar with Klein tool bags that cell tower crews often use -- and those are durable.
I'm hoping the same is true for these smaller bags (and on first inspection, that seems to be the case).
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Ok then .. When inside a vehicle at 98 degrees , the temps can hit 100 + easily . Canvas cannot draw that kind heat .. I am aware of ammo , keeping in moderate temps as much as possible . Just my way ymmv
Ok then .. When inside a vehicle at 98 degrees , the temps can hit 100 + easily . Canvas cannot draw that kind heat .. I am aware of ammo , keeping in moderate temps as much as possible . Just my way ymmv
I'd be more concerned with the chamber temperature of your firearm after firing a dozen or so rounds than the canvas bag you transport the ammo in.

Gunpowder ignites at about 800-deg F (on the low end)
Lead melts at 621-deg F.

So, I guess if you see your bullets melting.... (of course, the canvas bag is already on fire by this point...)

Even Nitrocelulose (found in primers) won't ignite until about 325-deg F.

Personally, I'm not worried about hot ammo in the car on my way to/from the range.
Now for completeness - I never leave ammo in the car to prevent it falling into the wrong hands if someone ever broke into the vehicle.

But I do pay attention to elevated ammo temperature when shooting long distance, as hotter ammo (termperature-wise) can affect barrel pressure and initial velocity. And vice-versa, though it never seems to get cold enough in South Florida to matter much.
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Negative .. I only use them for transport to the range . The boxes i keep in a large record cabinet & can see them through the glass .. Now as in LGS , I don't keep them in metal ammo boxes per se . However they do not leave the house that way .. Yes factory ammo in my range bags . I never carry any loose ammo ever .
My ammo stays in the factory boxes inside my ammo cans, except for the times I've bought bulk ammo in cans that come as loose rounds. For example, last year I bought 1K of reman 115 gr 9mm copper jacket ball range ammo from 2A Warehouse for $0.237/rnd shipped that came in two 500 round plastic ammo cans and I left it that way because I was running all of that through the P-365X-MACRO (not a single failure, BTW).
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My ammo stays in the factory boxes inside my ammo cans, except for the times I've bought bulk ammo in cans that come as loose rounds. For example, last year I bought 1K of reman 115 gr 9mm copper jacket ball range ammo from 2A Warehouse for $0.237/rnd shipped that came in two 500 round plastic ammo cans and I left it that way because I was running all of that through the P-365X-MACRO (not a single failure, BTW).
I had so much 223 in cases that took up a lot of space that about 10 years ago I took a military mortar can and started emptying those cases and their boxes into that can. 8K rounds [ 8 cases ] have been loose bulk in the can for that long now. It measures 7'w x 17"L x 14"H. One case of pmc 223 measures 12L x 9W x 5"H.

I needed the space, I created space consolidating the 8 cases into that can in loose rounds. It's a waterproof can vs the cardboard boxes the 223 cases come in which draws moisture from the air to the boxes inside. 32#'s per case [ roughly ] so the mortar can filled weighs 256 pounds. I have to use the dolly to move it and it's now in a location it doesn't have to move again. It'll be the last used in that caliber after the other 8 factory cases get shot up [ and that's just not going to happen at this point in time ].
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I'd be more concerned with the chamber temperature of your firearm after firing a dozen or so rounds than the canvas bag you transport the ammo in.

Gunpowder ignites at about 800-deg F (on the low end)
Lead melts at 621-deg F.

So, I guess if you see your bullets melting.... (of course, the canvas bag is already on fire by this point...)

Even Nitrocelulose (found in primers) won't ignite until about 325-deg F.

Personally, I'm not worried about hot ammo in the car on my way to/from the range.
Now for completeness - I never leave ammo in the car to prevent it falling into the wrong hands if someone ever broke into the vehicle.

But I do pay attention to elevated ammo temperature when shooting long distance, as hotter ammo (termperature-wise) can affect barrel pressure and initial velocity. And vice-versa, though it never seems to get cold enough in South Florida to matter much.
Point taken and it's just the way i roll . I've been doing this since 24 years of age . What works for other people is fine . I'd rather be cautious than careless .
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I had so much 223 in cases that took up a lot of space that about 10 years ago I took a military mortar can and started emptying those cases and their boxes into that can. 8K rounds [ 8 cases ] have been loose bulk in the can for that long now. It measures 7'w x 17"L x 14"H. One case of pmc 223 measures 12L x 9W x 5"H.

I needed the space, I created space consolidating the 8 cases into that can in loose rounds. It's a waterproof can vs the cardboard boxes the 223 cases come in which draws moisture from the air to the boxes inside. 32#'s per case [ roughly ] so the mortar can filled weighs 256 pounds. I have to use the dolly to move it and it's now in a location it doesn't have to move again. It'll be the last used in that caliber after the other 8 factory cases get shot up [ and that's just not going to happen at this point in time ].
I have the same mortar can and store powder in it . The rest is out on the floor in my reloading room .
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I will also mention that I really do prefer the "European" style boxes of 9mm ammo.
By that, I mean the compact containers that Sellier & Bellot ammo comes in.
See: 9 mm LUGER / 9 mm PARA / 9 × 19 – FMJ 115 GRS SB9A – Sellier & Bellot

The boxes are compact: 50 rounds of S&B ammo takes up probably half the space of Winchester white box, for example.

I'm aware that not all S&B ammo comes in compact boxes (.338 Lapua Magnum, for one example).
And I'm not positive there's anything to "European" packaging - but that's what I've heard it called.

Regardless, all things being equal, the less physical space in my life taken up by ammo, the better.
So long as I can keep 1000's of rounds on-hand in each caliber. :)
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My ammo stays in the factory boxes inside my ammo cans, except for the times I've bought bulk ammo in cans that come as loose rounds. For example, last year I bought 1K of reman 115 gr 9mm copper jacket ball range ammo from 2A Warehouse for $0.237/rnd shipped that came in two 500 round plastic ammo cans and I left it that way because I was running all of that through the P-365X-MACRO (not a single failure, BTW).
Thanks for the heads up @ 2A Warehouse I just ordered 9mm .
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Well, truth be told, what I do after opening a box of bulk ammo, is order a replacement box.
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MTM Case-Guard, 100%. They have stackable crates and cans, can storage solutions, and boxes for various sizes of ammo compatible with them all. Been using them for years, including a cache buried at a cabin that held up for a year and a half. Can't reccomend them enough.
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Um..if ammo in a metal can is gonna go off in the summer heat, it'll do the same in your pistol in a hot vehicle..just sayin
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MTM Case-Guard, 100%. They have stackable crates and cans, can storage solutions, and boxes for various sizes of ammo compatible with them all. Been using them for years, including a cache buried at a cabin that held up for a year and a half. Can't reccomend them enough.
I have their hard plastic individual boxes for revolver / pistol ammo . These are basically crush proof & I can insert all load data under the lids ..
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I would be OK with ammo boxes (metal or plastic), but I just don't shoot enough in the typical range outing to justify filling a complete box. No argument from me that those metal boxes are sturdy, and weatherproof (if not waterproof or even submersible). But it's a lot to lug around.

I think these canvas bags will work well (for me).
I know I'm late posting photos... Sorry about that.

I've got a box of 350 Blazer bulk 9mm FMJ that I think might fit nicely?
It's got a 2018 label, (I date my ammo), so its original cardboard box shows 5+ years of wear.
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I would be OK with ammo boxes (metal or plastic), but I just don't shoot enough in the typical range outing to justify filling a complete box. No argument from me that those metal boxes are sturdy, and weatherproof (if not waterproof or even submersible). But it's a lot to lug around.

I think these canvas bags will work well (for me).
I know I'm late posting photos... Sorry about that.

I've got a box of 350 Blazer bulk 9mm FMJ that I think might fit nicely?
It's got a 2018 label, (I date my ammo), so its original cardboard box shows 5+ years of wear.
Just went on Amazon and they are loaded with ammo bags & tool bags ...
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Just went on Amazon and they are loaded with ammo bags & tool bags ...
+1 for the pun. :)
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+1 for the pun. :)
I can assure you it was not done as a pun . However after re reading my post , I can see your point
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Harbor Freight ammo boxes. They're typical HF "quality" but I've never had one break - even the handles under load. Only problem is there are so many full ones stacked in my closet that I'm running out of space for clothes and shoes 😁.
just when I thought I was the only one with an impenetrable clothes closet . Truth be told I have about 10 lbs of clothes plus 2 rifles blocking that particular safe in .
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Still late on the photos, but I'm happy to report that the canvas bags (Klein variety) are perfect.
I loaded about 300 rounds of that Blazer Brass 9mm from the original carton.
Fits in the smaller bag with maybe 40% room left over.

This is going to be a way better solution for me.

Next experiment will be to see how many 12 ga shells I can pack in the larger bag.
Although, I already own a few bandoliers for that issue. :)
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I do a lot of clay shooting and for shotgun I bought several of these.

These hold 4 boxes (100) rounds each and I will usually bring two with me when I clay shoot.


I also have one of these I’ve started using more and more. It holds two flats (250 rounds per flat). Or one flat with some additional gear.


Both are from Basspro and I highly recommend.
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Still late on the photos, but I'm happy to report that the canvas bags (Klein variety) are perfect.
I loaded about 300 rounds of that Blazer Brass 9mm from the original carton.
Fits in the smaller bag with maybe 40% room left over.

This is going to be a way better solution for me.

Next experiment will be to see how many 12 ga shells I can pack in the larger bag.
Although, I already own a few bandoliers for that issue. :)
Awesome ! Me Too
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