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As there have been a couple of threads in recent days concerning possible scenarios in which your significant other would be directly involved, I had a question for you.

If you were to become incapacitated, while defending yourself and your significant other, before incapacitating your attacker or attackers, what would become of your loved one? Would they have the means, the training and the desire to continue the fight and defend themselves, and possibly you?

None of us like to consider failure. But it could happen. So give some thought to how you expect your loved ones to react in a deadly confrontation and what you should do to guarantee that they survive. And feel free to throw some thoughts, on this topic, out to the rest of the forum.
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It's paramount that your significant other is onboard with your security plans. My significant other and I have gone over many scenarios ranging from home defense to self defense when out in public. She knows how to use the guns I own if I get injured or if I'm not at home. It's rather nice to have her discreetly pat me down to see if I'm carrying or ask me if I'm carrying. It shows that she is aware of our surroundings and not just leave it up to me alone.
 

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As there have been a couple of threads in recent days concerning possible scenarios in which your significant other would be directly involved, I had a question for you.

If you were to become incapacitated, while defending yourself and your significant other, before incapacitating your attacker or attackers, what would become of your loved one? Would they have the means, the training and the desire to continue the fight and defend themselves, and possibly you?

None of us like to consider failure. But it could happen. So give some thought to how you expect your loved ones to react in a deadly confrontation and what you should do to guarantee that they survive. And feel free to throw some thoughts, on this topic, out to the rest of the forum.
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Nope, that's why I don't play fair every chance I get when it's matters of survival and don't give people a chance most might Mac. If I don't make it, the chances of her making it are slim and none.
 

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I have a peaceful relationship with my wife. She can fire a snubnose .357 mag. and make it count on paper targets. She now uses KelTec P3AT as primary weapon. I at least have her as second line of defense.
 

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Mine never last long enough to train!:rolf
 

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So give some thought to how you expect your loved ones to react in a deadly confrontation and what you should do to guarantee that they survive.
I'll do anything to guarantee my family's survival. Sign me up.
 

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My wife is tough...........with me, LOL. She knows to get behind me and to follow intructions. She was a corporate executive and knows when to defer to experience here. While fit, she has no training and defers to me for our protection and security. Seems fair with all she IS better than me at.

I have got her in firearms training with my new XD (Kel Tec would get her turned off before we got started). So far she just dry fires but is less afraid of it than she was. Funny, she is as 2nd Amendment supportive as I am but was conditioned to be afraid of guns. I am proud that she listens to me and realizes the world is changing rapidly and skill with a pistol may save her life someday.

LOL, she knows safety features, rules and can load for me. Next, we MAY create a monster! I hope so but , if not, I can honestly say they have to go through me, and the pups to get to her. The pups are little BUT mightyt!:D

We do have the home drill and where to go down pat at least.
 

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Slickshot and I are on the same page with our safety and security is concerned.
We have our plans down to even considering if one of us go down we
even have the same type of sidearm on as not to get confused as to the manual of arms.
And usually we both have a bug for just when Mr. Murphy rears his ugly head.
Not being paranoid, but I have put a lot of bad people in jail and the threats of harm to me are many.
So yes my sig. other is a fighter and has trained to be, If I go down she will fight untill slid lock and the bug runs dry, then her Spyderco will be soaking wet with blood.
Like Brownie said paraphrasing here There is no fair fight, just winners and losers.
And we train to be winners.
 

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Survival

Survival is one thing I've been taught well. I am small but Dynamite comes in small packages. Ron8903 and I are always on alert. He knows that when the stuff hits the fan he can always count on me to have his six. When the ammo runs out,, I've been taught without a doubt,, there is always a weapon of some kind around you. There is no doubt that he would fight to the death to protect me and ours, but if god forbid, anything happened to where he could not fight any longer, I would do anything necessary to survive and protect him. Meaning a stick, a knife, a block, or a rock......Whatever it took....I'd give it my all.
We are on the same page for sure with this subject.:pistols :ak
 

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Survival is one thing I've been taught well. I am small but Dynamite comes in small packages. Ron8903 and I are always on alert. He knows that when the stuff hits the fan he can always count on me to have his six. When the ammo runs out,, I've been taught without a doubt,, there is always a weapon of some kind around you. There is no doubt that he would fight to the death to protect me and ours, but if god forbid, anything happened to where he could not fight any longer, I would do anything necessary to survive and protect him. Meaning a stick, a knife, a block, or a rock......Whatever it took....I'd give it my all.
We are on the same page for sure with this subject.:pistols :ak
Wow, Ron is a lucky man! Of course, most of us men ARE!:drinks
 

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I have been out of touch the last couple of days and just got back to the forum.

As expected, we have heard from those people who have addressed or are addressing this issue. And it is an issue because, for most of you, protecting your loved ones is the main purpose of taking the step to acquire a firearm and the skills to use it. This question was addressed to the primary defender of a family group, which is usually the male in a dual gender couple.

Generally, men are the first line of defense for the home and family. This is natural. As such they will aggressively seek out and attack a threat to their loved ones. They are also more likely to use an application of controlled force or violence to neutralize the threat.

Women have traditionally been the last line of defense for the home and family. As such they are much more willing, by nature, to utilize the nuclear option and totally eliminate any threat to their home or loved ones, particularly their children.

In the case of direct attack by an armed assailant on the street, it is generally going to be the man who takes charge of the defense. He is also going to be regarded as the primary opponent by the assailant. In CQB, there is a very good chance that he will go down and he may go down without neutralizing the threat presented by the assailant. This leaves the other family member to fend for herself, or himself as the case may be. If that person can not effectively defend themselves, then the other person's sacrifice was largely in vain. That is why I asked you to give this situation some thought.

Now, ladies, or whoever the secondary defender in the family group may be, it is your responsibility to have the skill set and instrumentality to defend not only yourself, but the primary defender. My wife is always armed in public and is quite capable of initiating an attack if the conditions favor a quick resolution to the problem through that action. In addition, if I initiate a defensive attack upon an assailant and am rendered hors d' combat, she is perfectly capable of continuing her defense and leaving the field of battle intact and possibly even saving my bacon.

And that is the whole point, to protect my family. And, protection of the family is a family affair.
 

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Man you guys are lucky. My wife HATES guns. She won't even look at mine. I am very discrete when I bring mine into the house. I put it on the top shelf in my closet.
Funny, we did have to go to a very bad section of Jacksonville last Sunday. She asked me if I was "packing". I smiled and and said "yep". She then said she was kidding...but she wasn't.
When my kids get older (5 and 2) I will buy a .22 pistol and get them involved if they want to.
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I have been out of touch the last couple of days and just got back to the forum.

As expected, we have heard from those people who have addressed or are addressing this issue. And it is an issue because, for most of you, protecting your loved ones is the main purpose of taking the step to a firearm and the skills to use it. This question was addressed to the primary defended of a family group, which is usually the male in a dual gender couple.

Generally, men are the first line of defense for the home and family. This is natural. As such they will agressively seek out and attack a threat to their loved ones. They are also more likely to use an application of controlled force or violence to neutralize the threat.

Women have traditionally been the last line of defense for the home and family. As such they are much more willing, by nature, to utilize the nuclear option and totally eliminate any threat to their home or loved ones, particularly their children.

In the case of direct attack by an armed assailant on the street, it is generally going to be the man who takes charge of the defense. He is also going to be regarded as the primary opponent by the assailant. In CQB, there is a very good chance that he will go down and he may go down without neutralizing the threat presented by the assailant. This leaves the other family member to fend for herself, or himself as the case may be. If that person can not effectively defend themselves, then the other person's sacrifice was largely in vain. That is why I asked you to give this situation some thought.

Now, ladies, or whoever the secondary defender in the family group may be, it is your responsibility to have the skill set and instrumentality to defend not only yourself, but the primary defender. My wife is always armed in public and is quite capable of initiating an attack if the conditions favor a quick resolution to the problem through that action. In addition, if I initiate a defensive attack upon anassailant and am rendered hors d' combat, she is perfectly capable of continuing her defense and leaving the field of battle intact and possible even saving my bacon.

And that is the whole point, to protect my family. And, protection of the family is a family affair.
Well put Mac45 :clap.

As such they are much more willing, by nature, to utilize the nuclear option and totally eliminate any threat to their home or loved ones, particularly their children.
I can completely relate to that statement. My job was to channel that nuclear option into specific trained responses. It's really great to have someone to talk and plan home and self defense with.
 

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Man you guys are lucky. My wife HATES guns. She won't even look at mine. I am very discrete when I bring mine into the house. I put it on the top shelf in my closet.
Funny, we did have to go to a very bad section of Jacksonville last Sunday. She asked me if I was "packing". I smiled and and said "yep". She then said she was kidding...but she wasn't.
When my kids get older (5 and 2) I will buy a .22 pistol and get them involved if they want to.
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It just takes time. Women want to be able to protect themselves, if you are not around. When you are around, that is your job. My wife "expects" me to provide protection, but has decided that, in the event that I can not, she will. All mothers, and most fathers, would much rather raise their children in a world where violent defense is not necessary. And they are justifiable concerned with their children being safe from accidentally injuring themselves with firearms and power tools. But if she realizes a need for self defense, she will embrace it.

One caveat. make sure that your firearm is stored safely [locked up or disabled]. Children, especially between the ages of 4 and 10, are extremely curious, they probably already know where you keep your firearm and they are frighteningly ingenious when it comes to figuring out ways to get what they want. Nothing, in your house, is either hidden or unattainable from your children, unless it is locked up. BTDT.:banghead
 
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