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I had John O'Rourke of http://www.gun-holsters.com/ build me a custom street speed rig for the G17 which I've been wearing at the gun shop three days a week and using in the Tuesday night steel shoots during the same time.

I ordered this one exactly to my specifications and the way I wanted it. Straight drop for use with Elbow Up/Elbow Down [ EU/ED or FAS 1/2 hip ]. The back strap of the G17 sits level with the top of the belt so it's not a high ride or low rider but neutral there as well.

When I got the belt/holster/mag pouch I took it out to the closest remote area of the Superstition mountains and timed a few draw strokes without any practice on it. The first two draws to first COM shot were .46 and .44 seconds. That gave me a base as to how fast this rig might be in the future with some practice. I've done a .43 with a kydex belt holster after a few tries in the past so I wanted to see the difference right away. It showed a lot of promise at breaking the .40 barrier and getting into the 3's. I liked it.

I've been wearing this for a month now, shooting the matches with it for the last three weeks as reported with results elsewhere on the forum, as well as practicing the draw stroke from the rig and late this morning I put the timer on it again. Got some low to mid 4's and then after several of those, I stepped the pace up, went for broke and got into a .38 and .37 second draw stroke to good COM hits from 8 feet. I just don't know how much faster I can get at my advanced age but it sure would have been nice to time this one when I was 25

The belt is 2 3/8" wide, skinnying down in the front to let you bend over at the waist with no binding and seat yourself comfortably in chairs, the truck, etc It's comfortable as all get out, distributing the weight of the gun and double mag holder on the opposite side so you don't know you are wearing a gun. I usually wear an untucked large T shirt over a T shirt in the heat with this belt/holster rig. I tuck the T behind the holster and gun and leave it untucked over the mag pouch.

I had a custom drop leg with tie down made for a K frame model 13 4" back in 1972 that I used to play with all the time on fast draw from the hip. Still have that rig stored away but it's not been used now for over 20 now. Guess I've been using EU/ED for at least that long which would make it 36 years.

This new rig John O'Rourke made me is being used and used a lot out here several times a week. Open carry is allowed and more importantly accepted about everywhere without all the nonsense about scaring people around you. I like this rig, it's comfortable, quick, and puts the gun at the optimum height for the skills I've come to use. No retention strap, but it's boned enough to hold the gun if I run or jump up and down. Situational awareness is mandatory with this holster, but working the shop I'm pretty much a closed environ and not out on the streets with it all the time in public in crowded scenarios.

Thought the members would like some photos of this so without further adoo, here ya go-----------------let me know what you think.

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Here's some close ups. Never mind about the gut jokes, it's there and likely to stay there:D

Thanks, a huge thanks to John O'Rourke for the superb effort in the execution of this rig. It was labor intensive and the holster you see as the final product took 16-17 attempts to get it just the way I wanted it. The man knows how to make holsters obviously. When I'm not wearing this one, I wear his pancake holsters with every street gun I carry.

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Thank you for this post Brownie. That's an extremely nice rig. If I could open carry I would carry my Glock19 at that height too. Is the cutout on the forward side of the holster intentional and if so is it there so you can clear leather faster?
 

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NkmG19,

Is the cutout on the forward side of the holster intentional and if so is it there so you can clear leather faster?

Yes, it was intentional so it could clear leather faster with FAS 1/2 hip also known as elbow up/elbow down. I'm in the high 3/10's of a second with this rig already. The world speed record is something like .23 with special equipment and guns while I'm using a stock glock 17 in mine.

I'm pretty happy at the moment, as I think even startled and having to draw I'll be around mid .40's seconds to first shot once the decision has been made to hit the bang switch.

The holster, and subsequently the gun sits at the optimum height and angle to use the scoop draw very efficiently with no wasted motion.

Thanks for the thoughts on this rig. It took him 16 or 17 attempts to get this one just right for me and consequently just over a year to get it to me, but I can say it was well worth the wait. Notice the buckle holes in the belt? I can gain or lose 3" either way and still be able to use this rig later in life. :D

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