[brownie]

Being an experienced shooter and on a gun forum that’s easy to say. Put the average carrier into same situation he was in and the majority wouldn’t do same as him.



Of course it is. But as I said a great percentage of CCWers don’t do much more than a couple range sessions and a couple hundred rounds and then holster up thinking they are ready.

And this incident will likely reinforce their belief they'll acquit themselves like Eli did. Having a false sense of your skills based on shooting static 2d targets with all the time in the world to fire that heater isn't conducive to exemplary performance/outcomes.

 

[mike1956]

Based on what I saw that day in the thread the needle exercise, I don't think they'd shoot with people in close proximity to the perp for fear of hitting an innocent. Then again, I wasn't taught how to get in the bubble and go to work defending myself until 93, some 22 years after I started carrying and 16 years after I started working the streets.

Learning to get into the bubble as well as staying there while distractions are moving about was one of the better training lessons afforded me

That force-on-force weekend you conducted certainly went a long way in helping me get "into the bubble", If you recall, I had a real deal shortly after that in Puerto Rico. The scenario was different, but the default mindset was the same. The hole is much easier to climb up out of if you have been down in it before.

 

[brownie]

That force-on-force weekend you conducted certainly went a long way in helping me get "into the bubble", If you recall, I had a real deal shortly after that in Puerto Rico. The scenario was different, but the default mindset was the same. The hole is much easier to climb up out of if you have been down in it before.

I remember you posting on that event and your actions which defeated their idea of you and your wife being victims.

 

[Rick McC.]

I experienced the whole enchilada when the german shepherd attacked me (looking back on it); auditory exclusion, and tunnel vision.
It worked out very well in getting through the scuffle with the dog, but I can see how that could literally be the “kiss of death” in an engagement with multiple assailants. Based on past interactions I’ve had; I don’t believe that’d be the case, but damn I sure hope not!! 😳