The original "drill" is eazy peazy with my .45 Performance Center Shield with time to spare. Eight rounds, eight hits with time to spare from forty-plus yards. Anyone who believes that to be remarkable should maybe get out more. With my bone stock Glock 19, not so much. The kid did good, however we dice it.
You're right, someone who has command of the basics shouldn't have any problem putting 8 on a perp standing in the open from 42 yrds.
yes for both 9 and 45. The 9mm would be about 2" low, the 45 about 2.5" low.
Of course, the perp may keel over slightly after the first hit, making the second one a few inches high.
If you normally shoot COM, you've got 17-18" from neck to belt. So shooting center of chest, you've got 8-9" of leeway for high or low shots for whatever reason.Of course, the perp may keel over slightly after the first hit, making the second one a few inches high.
But probably not enough to matter when the first two rounds are fired rapidly one after the other.
You left out the instant shock of most people of seeing three people blasted away, hearing gunfire in an open food court without hearing protection, people scattering in every direction and per the article he had to hesitate mid stream due to people running in between them and again for most people adrenalin being as high as it’s ever been in their lives. A great percentage of people who carry are no different than Eli, no real exp or training other than ‘my granpa taught me to shoot when I was nine.’
When you're in it, people running about are just distractions that if allowed to enter the "bubble" you should be in while in an event like this [ extreme focus on the job at hand which is getting sights on the perp ]. Fire when you have an opening, stop firing as people may enter into your sighting, then continue firing on the turd. Singularly focused when the party starts, distractions will force you to less focused on the perp than innocents floating in and out of the scenario
I agree. But what you said is a lot easier said than done for a great many people who carry.
Sights on target, know your target (between and beyond in this particular case), solid grip, pull the trigger, repeat as necessary.
That's on them...
A lot easier said than done for most who haven't been trained to stay in the bubble. He came out of a meat grinder with a LOT of luck on his side for little to no training.
Being an experienced shooter and on a gun forum that’s easy to say. Put the average carrier into same situation he was in and the majority wouldn’t do same as him.
Of course it is. But as I said a great percentage of CCWers don’t do much more than a couple range sessions and a couple hundred rounds and then holster up thinking they are ready.
As I recall, during your class we did one scenario in which the students were required to "thread the needle" for a precision shot at some distance. That is one situation in which auditory exclusion, tunnel vision, time distortion and the other effects of an adrenaline dump might well work to the defender's advantage. No distractions, just the target at distance.
I quit being average, or concerning myself with what it means many years ago. Again, simply not a mike1956 concern.
Based on what I saw that day in the thread the needle exercise, I don't think they'd shoot with people in close proximity to the perp for fear of hitting an innocent. Then again, I wasn't taught how to get in the bubble and go to work defending myself until 93, some 22 years after I started carrying and 16 years after I started working the streets.
