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I want to see the actual conditions before I start basing training on reports in the news. Hats off to the guy on a job well done, regardless of the actual times, distances, movement to cover, throwing the girlfriend on the floor, whatever.
 

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At first glance at the thread title, I thought it was a title to an old porn movie
 

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I want to see the actual conditions before I start basing training on reports in the news. Hats off to the guy on a job well done, regardless of the actual times, distances, movement to cover, throwing the girlfriend on the floor, whatever.

how about (supposedly) an actual pic from the food court where it happened?

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"Supposed"?
Pic is circulating the internet. Of course gun and hand is superimposed over the food court. But some on other forums have said they are familiar with the mall and food court and that is it.
Never the less we do know he engaged him and fired first shots from 40yds. He fired 10rnds beginning to end while closing the distance. Police have confirmed that from surveillance video only they have seen. Coroner confirmed bad guy had received 8 hits.
So I think the first pic and ‘drill’ is fairly accurate of what happened.
 

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40 yrds on a man sized threat isn't all that difficult, but under stress it's quite difficult even for the best pistolero's.

Did the shooter have a dot on his glock or open sights, makes a LOT of difference in longer shots.
 

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40 yrds on a man sized threat isn't all that difficult, but under stress it's quite difficult even for the best pistolero's.

Did the shooter have a dot on his glock or open sights, makes a LOT of difference in longer shots.
A member on the Sig forum says he knows a leo involved and our GG had a GL19 with WML. Nothing else. Scored 8 hits out of 10 shots. He did better than most trained police or military could do and he’s neither with zero training.
 

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A member on the Sig forum says he knows a leo involved and our GG had a GL19 with WML. Nothing else. Scored 8 hits out of 10 shots. He did better than most trained police or military could do and he’s neither with zero training.
That's good shooting with irons under stress in anyone's book. (y)
 

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Weren’t you guys 10’ tall & bulletproof at that age? I know I was, prolly why I stand up slowly, take my first few steps gingerly …… doin a function check, before we get leaned out too far forward and find out something don’t work & boom! Man down! 😆 Seriously, the silence and complete LACK of the media heralding this kid, for what he did is astounding! Where is Matthew McDickahead & Prune face Nancy & 2 dollar cheaters Chuck? How come poopy pants ain’t invited him to the White House yet? This kid really was saving children! Not projectiling oral diarrhea about it …. AND he did it WITH a gun!! ….. Oh yeah, never mind, doesn’t fit the agenda does it🥲 What complete piles of schitt for brains, these idiots are! Did ya see the picture of the shooter? Another chicken zhit, vagina, that mommy didn’t hug enough! Rot in hell maggot, you been Dicken’d!!
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add a moving target to the scenario for accuracy...the first shot hit the shooter and he attempted to move back toward the restroom but collapsed as he took more incoming...this guy is my hero...my wife looked at me and asked why only ten from a glock...i replied that he probably wanted to preserve a few rounds in case the guy got back up...this kid made some fierce hits at that distance under stress with innocents panicking around him...while he waved people to exit safely behind him...i'm guessing he has participated in some sort of shooting games or has a real knack for video gaming/quick target acquisition and a steady hand...

shoot until they stop or catch on fire...

oh...btw...several liberal media outlets have made comments...most were that he disobeyed mall rules by carrying a handgun in the mall..."why was he carrying a gun where they are not allowed"...welcome to the new world order...the liberals lost another minion that day...
 

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.i'm guessing he has participated in some sort of shooting games or has a real knack for video gaming/quick target acquisition and a steady hand...
Nope. According to the police chief, he was not formally trained in any way. He told the police his grandfather taught him to shoot. That's it.

A truly remarkable performance.
 
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Nope. According to the police chief, he was not formally trained in any way. He told the police his grandfather taught him to shoot. That's it.

A truly remarkable performance.
i salute his grandfather...but i wasnt referring to formal training...we had a youngster show up at idpa one week with no experience whatsoever...he was a bit cocky and mentioned that he played splatball games with his friends...kid nailed every scenario with honors...fast on his feet...quick aquisition and deadly accuracy...practice of any kind can be valuable...
 

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i salute his grandfather...but i wasnt referring to formal training...we had a youngster show up at idpa one week with no experience whatsoever...he was a bit cocky and mentioned that he played splatball games with his friends...kid nailed every scenario with honors...fast on his feet...quick aquisition and deadly accuracy...practice of any kind can be valuable...
I meant that, according to the police, the ONLY (formal / informal / whatever) training he had was his grandfather teaching him how to shoot.
 
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Nope. According to the police chief, he was not formally trained in any way. He told the police his grandfather taught him to shoot. That's it.

A truly remarkable performance.
If his Grandfather is still available he may be as popular a trainer as Jack Wilson!
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