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Someone talk me out of a 1911

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I currently carry a Glock 27 and at times an LCP. On neither of them a safety and both of them pull the trigger and go bang. I really enjoyed shooting 1911's and I am contemplating buying one as a carry weapon. Probably not EDC but on special times. I am concerned of how much gross motor confusion this might cause now having to use the external safety of the 1911.

Input appreciated.
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I don't know brother, but it can be a problem. That's why I don't carry my FN 5.7. My thumb always goes to drop the safety and that's not where it is on that gun.
A man can never have too many firearms; my personal emergency contingency plan will arm every adult family member on my block.
Some people can switch around and not have any problems. I'm not one of those. I only carry pull the trigger guns without safeties. It's either a Glock or a revolver. The only way you can tell if you are o.k. to do it is to give it a try.
I got this from another forum. It is a couple of years old. I've posted it here before, but thought it here, especially since you are trying to convince yourself you need another gun. Also to give to the spouse in case they want to know why you need another gun.



1) Explain that guns are "man jewelry". You don't "need" guns, but if she really loves you she'll get guns for you.

2) If you can take a "home security" slant on any gun, do so.

3) Get her relatives involved in shooting/hunting. Hunting becomes an opportunity to bond with her family.

4) Get a TC Encore/Contender...no matter how many barrels you get its still technically only one gun.

5) Get her into hunting/shooting. My wife wants to do some skeet/trap shooting...here comes the 20 gauge autoloader. This may be a mistake in the long run, consider this option carefully before proceeding. You loose her ignorance, which is a great ally to your gun collecting.

6) Have multiple cases and keep the combination to your safe to yourself.

7) Have a designated "man" area. Keep it messy, or at least looking messy so that she can't stand being around it. This is your area, the place you need to be messy so that you can keep the rest of your house clean. This is where you keep guns. An unfinished corner of a basement, garage, or a shed is perfect.

8) Have her work evening/weekend shifts if possible. This makes covert gun purchases very easy.

9) Stretch the truth and say that it’s illegal to sell a gun without an expensive license.

10) Buy guns for children/future children.

11) Get a better paying job that does not cut into your hunting/shooting time. Disposable income = more guns.

Any man who thinks that its "sissy" to use your wife's emotions to get guns is a fool. You need to make it clear that the way she can express her love to you is buy "letting" you go on that hunting/fishing trip or buy that gun/scope/fishing rod/fish finder/etc.

I also use the old "I think we're prosperous and every time I think we are prosperous I think back to every time we've been prosperous and at those times I bought a gun.
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A man can never have too many firearms; my personal emergency contingency plan will arm every adult family member on my block.
Are there any open homes on your block? :D

If it's a good 1911, I'm considering moving! :laughing


Bob
I currently carry a Glock 27 and at times an LCP. On neither of them a safety and both of them pull the trigger and go bang. I really enjoyed shooting 1911's and I am contemplating buying one as a carry weapon. Probably not EDC but on special times. I am concerned of how much gross motor confusion this might cause now having to use the external safety of the 1911.

Input appreciated.
There will not be as much confusion as you might think. It is all a matter of proper training. The Glock does not have a thumb safety and the 1911 does. So, you simply train to use the thumb safety. And train yourself to ignore its absence. A more important difference in the two weapons is the grip size and grip angle. If you train for point and shoot techniques, grip angle can make a difference. But everyone should have a 1911.

I currently own a Colt Commander, a Sig P220, a S&W 6906 and a SA XD-45. I can deploy any of them quickly with no fumbling. It just takes a little practice. And you can practice drawing in your house with no ammo expenditure.:cool:
But everyone should have a 1911.
That says it all.
Cannot give you any reason not to own one of the most successful pistol designs in history. It is a workhorse.
You gotta get it brother! As you already know the 1911 design is awesome
I currently carry a Glock 27 and at times an LCP. On neither of them a safety and both of them pull the trigger and go bang. I really enjoyed shooting 1911's and I am contemplating buying one as a carry weapon. Probably not EDC but on special times. I am concerned of how much gross motor confusion this might cause now having to use the external safety of the 1911.

Input appreciated.
I tried this same thing a while ago...Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, will try to talk you out of buying the 1911....So, go ahead, you know you want one...:dancingbanana
I have a full size 1911. I wouldn't carry it on me. I tried. Way too heavy & uncomfortable for me. I don't know how some guys are able to do it.
The G27 is a great conceal pistol. I love mine & wouldn't carry anything else for that purpose.

A 1911 is a good gun & yes everyone should have 1 in a collection.
I currently carry a Glock 27 and at times an LCP. On neither of them a safety and both of them pull the trigger and go bang. I really enjoyed shooting 1911's and I am contemplating buying one as a carry weapon. Probably not EDC but on special times. I am concerned of how much gross motor confusion this might cause now having to use the external safety of the 1911.

Input appreciated.
Get the 1911....I love 1911's. Getting use to the safety is just a matter of practice. I will tell you what I deal with, I have Springfield XD's and 1911 pistols and I change it up from time to time when carrying and to make matters even worse I am left eye dominate with my strange hand being my right (right handed) however pulling south paw feels more natural to me. So long story short when I carry my XD I carry southpaw and when I carry 1911's I carry strong arm (right). Over the years I have just gotten use to it with a lot of practice drawing around the house and today I know I can draw a shoot either hand and carry either style of handgun.

Get the 1911 they feel better to me than Glocks (which I can not carry) or the XD
There will not be as much confusion as you might think. It is all a matter of proper training. The Glock does not have a thumb safety and the 1911 does. So, you simply train to use the thumb safety. And train yourself to ignore its absence. A more important difference in the two weapons is the grip size and grip angle. If you train for point and shoot techniques, grip angle can make a difference. But everyone should have a 1911.
What he said. :thumsup
Go ahead and get the 1911. Tell your Significant Other we all said you had to have it!! :D

I have 3 Government 1911's and I rotate them as EDC. They're great guns and you'll get used to the thumb safety. I'm guessing the grip is different enough from a glock, that when you grab it, you'll remember the TS. (I don't own any glocks, never have. But I did touch one once...) :laughing
(I don't own any glocks, never have. But I did touch one once...) :laughing
Then you're infected...it's only a matter of time before the disease takes hold of you. :laughing
++11 on what everyone else said, plus a little extra. With adequate practice, and believe me it really doesn't take that much, you can learn to shoot well practically any platform of sidearm. I've put thousands of rounds through Glocks and Sigs, but I have also put about a thousand rounds through a Smith 36, and about 500 through a AMT .380 Backup. Once you get thoroughly familiar with a sidearm, "muscle memory" will kick in. I can guarantee you that in the middle of the night, dead asleep, I can grab my old 36 (if I can find it in a hurry) and drill the h--l out of a BG at 15 yards or less. ONLY because of familiarization and muscle memory. As soon as your hands grip that weapon, the mind goes into that mode.

So if you own a Glock, and practice sufficiently with a 1911 model, regardless of which one you pull, you will go into that mode. That is no different than the single gun owner. If the owner doesn't practice enough with his only weapon, he will fumble with it when he needs it most.

Sorry, I can't talk you out of a 1911. I can't wait until I can afford to own a couple of dozen more.

Beer y'all,
Ken
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There will not be as much confusion as you might think. It is all a matter of proper training. The Glock does not have a thumb safety and the 1911 does. So, you simply train to use the thumb safety. And train yourself to ignore its absence. A more important difference in the two weapons is the grip size and grip angle. If you train for point and shoot techniques, grip angle can make a difference. But everyone should have a 1911.

I currently own a Colt Commander, a Sig P220, a S&W 6906 and a SA XD-45. I can deploy any of them quickly with no fumbling. It just takes a little practice. And you can practice drawing in your house with no ammo expenditure.:cool:
This is getting to sound like a broken record (for those who remember what records are)...What Mac45 said!

My EDCs are G23s (every day) Smith PD 1911, P35s, and Kahr PM9 (BUG). The 1911 and P35 have safeties, the Glocks and Kahr do not.

I practice more with the 1911 and P35 because of the safeties to keep the muscle memory in tact. The Glocks and Kahr are no brainers...the motions are the same, the thumb just doesn't hit anything on its way to the grip.

Yes, the grip angle on the Glock is different from the others, but after 18 years of carrying/shooting the G23, it's not an issue for me. YMMV.
Then you're infected...it's only a matter of time before the disease takes hold of you. :laughing
I hope not, I washed my hands afterwards. :D
I have a full size 1911. I wouldn't carry it on me. I tried. Way too heavy & uncomfortable for me. I don't know how some guys are able to do it.
The G27 is a great conceal pistol. I love mine & wouldn't carry anything else for that purpose.

A 1911 is a good gun & yes everyone should have 1 in a collection.
QFT

I CC my G27/G29 and use my wifes 1911 for looking at and general pimp duty
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