[mike1956]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/deputies-motorcyclist-concealed-carry-permit-162016904.html

This happened in Florida. What does Florida law and common sense say about shooting this guy?

 

[Coops]

This happened 5 miles from my house.
Hypothetically, a guy comes out of his car with a knife, my gun comes out before any words are spoken. The biker waited until he got swiped at before he drew. That's a deadly weapon, especially for someone on blood thinners who could bleed out from a deep cut.
That said, I have four wheels so I stay in the car and drive off.

 

[RadTek]

Personally, he’d have never gotten the chance to get close enough for a swipe like that. He’d get painted soon as he exited the truck with a knife in his hand. More than a step or two my direction wouldn’t end well for him.

What a mess. This is why I try really hard to check my ego and temper before getting in my car. Idiots are going to cut you off. They are stupid. It ain’t worth it.

 

[FfNJGTFO]

I concur. If he's exiting his vehicle with a knife and is advancing on me, I'm drawing. What he does after that will determine what I do.

 

[BeerHunter]

Personally, he’d have never gotten the chance to get close enough for a swipe like that. He’d get painted soon as he exited the truck with a knife in his hand. More than a step or two my direction wouldn’t end well for him.

What a mess. This is why I try really hard to check my ego and temper before getting in my car. Idiots are going to cut you off. They are stupid. It ain’t worth it.

This. . .

I concur. If he's exiting his vehicle with a knife and is advancing on me, I'm drawing. What he does after that will determine what I do.

. . .and this!

 

[Steve48]

Once the trucker gets out of the truck with a knife, it's game on. I wonder, however, what happened just before that. Perhaps some words that should have been left unsaid?

 

[7.62Kolectr]

There’s a whole lot of stupid going on in that video.
Who ‘tries’ to use a knife on someone like that? That was the weakest ‘attack’ I’ve seen? Dudes a dipstick.
Biker guy stands there wayyyy too close and challenges said dipstick? He’s a dipstick.
Woman recording? Did she really threaten to steal the guys truck in the middle of all that? She’s a dipstick too.

Kinda seems like the ‘attack’ was over when the guy drew his gun. Dipstick #1 was already backing up after the swipe
Dipstick #2 then drew and threatened the guy
All while Dipstick #3 was blabbering and saying she was gonna ‘take his truck’.
I’m amazed only one person wound up arrested after all that.

 

[7.62Kolectr]

Once the trucker gets out of the truck with a knife, it's game on. I wonder, however, what happened just before that. Perhaps some words that should have been left unsaid?

You can hear them arguing over ‘right on red’ and ‘you cut me off’.

 

[brownie]

Was the motor rider still sitting on the bike when the turd attempted to slash him and he drew? Or did he alight from same putting stand down, drawing at that time? Or did he drop the motor and alight and draw?

The article really doesn't give enough detail which I'd personally like to know even if not important to this discussion.

In that situation, I'm off the bike the second he appears with a blade. On the opposite side of his advance. I've had instances where there may be an issue when coming to a stop with another, I've put the kickstand down in case I needed to bail on the motor for mobility.

Come out with a knife after a road rage incident? Game on. Does that person know how the game is played when he exits the cage? If not, he's about to be schooled on the games rules.

 

[Mass Transplant]

Funny how the guy with the knife tells the police a guy pulled a gun on him. Never says he got out of his truck with a knife first and lunged at him. Good for the gun owners wife to take a video of the incident.
Knives can do a lot of damage, take the threat seriously.

 

[joecarry]

I only saw half the video and that was too much. You have two idiots that should have decided to de-escalate a bad situation and just drive away. Instead they had a Mexican standoff that could have ended in tragedy for one or both of them.

And as Colombo is fond of saying.… “just one more thing”….You never ever take a “swipe” with a knife that doesn’t connect with a cut and or as series of cuts followed up with more “swipes” and cuts and again until the threat is down if your knife is your primary weapon of choice, if in fact the person is a true threat and needs a “swipe” or two to neutralize them as a threat. What I saw was the idiot with the knife was trying to use it as an “intimidation” to the other guy which backfired when the other guy drew down on him. (Could he have drawn his gun any slower? He could have been stuck 10Xs) He’s lucky he wasn’t ventilated on the spot. And the guy with the gun wasn’t convinced the knife guy was a true threat or committed to ventilating him which worked out for the knife guy.

YMMV.

 

[7.62Kolectr]

Was the motor rider still sitting on the bike when the turd attempted to slash him and he drew? Or did he alight from same putting stand down, drawing at that time? Or did he drop the motor and alight and draw?

The article really doesn't give enough detail which I'd personally like to know even if not important to this discussion.

In that situation, I'm off the bike the second he appears with a blade. On the opposite side of his advance. I've had instances where there may be an issue when coming to a stop with another, I've put the kickstand down in case I needed to bail on the motor for mobility.

Come out with a knife after a road rage incident? Game on. Does that person know how the game is played when he exits the cage? If not, he's about to be schooled on the games rules.

Theres a 3 minute video in top of article that shows the answers to all your questions? It IS the actual incident recorded.

 

[7.62Kolectr]

It’s when you pull out your own Covington forged Bowie!

😂

 

[brownie]

Theres a 3 minute video in top of article that shows the answers to all your questions? It IS the actual incident recorded.

Arguing with the guy with a knife like that? Nah, he could have popped him and still been maimed or killed before the turd succumbed to the shot/s. That motor rider is an idiot to stand there being threatened with a knife, the turd with the knife is an idiot to even produce a deadly weapon into an argument escalating the potential for grave bodily harm or death.

Thanks I saw it and just read the article.

 

[BeerHunter]

There’s a whole lot of stupid going on in that video.
Who ‘tries’ to use a knife on someone like that? That was the weakest ‘attack’ I’ve seen? Dudes a dipstick.
Biker guy stands there wayyyy too close and challenges said dipstick? He’s a dipstick.
Woman recording? Did she really threaten to steal the guys truck in the middle of all that? She’s a dipstick too.

Kinda seems like the ‘attack’ was over when the guy drew his gun. Dipstick #1 was already backing up after the swipe
Dipstick #2 then drew and threatened the guy
All while Dipstick #3 was blabbering and saying she was gonna ‘take his truck’.
I’m amazed only one person wound up arrested after all that.

Yup, dipsticks the whole lot of them.

 

[BeerHunter]

Once the trucker gets out of the truck with a knife, it's game on. I wonder, however, what happened just before that. Perhaps some words that should have been left unsaid?

I'm betting that is almost always the case.

 

[7.62Kolectr]

No matter what even since he was on a bike he made the choice to stop and confront instead of just ridin on man….
His mode of transpo made him more vulnerable but his stupidity is what almost cost him his life. Had the guy been serious he would have been dead before ever touching his gun.

 

[Denverd0n]

As previously said, "There’s a whole lot of stupid going on in that video."

It seems like, in an awful lot of these cases, there is a whole lot of stupid on both sides. Follow the rule, "just don't be stupid," and it seems like you avoid about 90% of these incidents!

 

[gatorhazard]

I saw the video where dude is brandishing a knife. Biker guy is moving towards him and it’s hard to tell if knife guy feels threatened due to being more than one potential assailant. I don’t like how the biker with a gun moves towards him even before he draws, and after. I have a hard time saying who is right in this, really both are wrong obviously.

I would have not put myself, or my loved ones in this scenario personally. That being said, once knife was presented, or any motion indicating person is transitioning to a force multiplier I am presenting my firearm and then asking if they really want to proceed. I will be firm and clear in my instruction that any move towards me will be met with force.

Did I say though that I would not put myself or loved ones in that situation??? I had a potential for a road rage instance a few years ago, with family in car. Too long a story for here but in a nutshell it was that a driver almost hit a pedestrian in a crosswalk while turning, who was an old man btw, and then driver started yelling at him ferociously. Words were exchanged between he and (“Hey! You realize he was in a crosswalk right??!!”) I and I was armed. I was in a mood that day and for all my wants to pull off and whip his arse hand to hand, after his offer I ultimately chose to be the bigger person and get out of the scenario. Besides I don’t know him, might have got my butt handed to me, lol. You just never know who you are up against.

The fight you don’t have to have is one you never have to explain on the side of the road in cuffs or in court.

 

[7.62Kolectr]

As previously said, "There’s a whole lot of stupid going on in that video."

It seems like, in an awful lot of these cases, there is a whole lot of stupid on both sides. Follow the rule, "just don't be stupid," and it seems like you avoid about 90% of these incidents!

100% if you can stow your ego and NOT STOP.