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I went on a boat ride about two weeks ago and just before i board the boat i remember i have my weapon on me ( i am so comfortable with my gun it does not feel any different than a cell phone ) the question is Does your cwl valid on sea as well as land ? or do you have to give it to the captian ontill you return to port ? or does it depends on how far out to see you go ? I left it on land to prevent any misunderstanding but the thought accored that the car could get broken into while you were at sea:eek:
 

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I'm no lawyer, but I'd imagine that your CHL is valid in the waters of any jurisdiction where your CHL would be valid on land. And in international waters, I'm pretty sure you can mount an M2 .50 machine gun on your bow if you so desire.

What kind of boat ride exactly were you going on? Was it a friend's personal vessel, a gambling boat, deep sea fishing charter, etc.? If it was anything other than yours or a friend's boat, I'd say the rules would be set by the vessel's master. But if carrying a concealed weapon was not expressly prohibited, I'd say that a "don't ask, don't tell" policy would be best.

Personally, I would never go to sea without at least a magazine-fed rifle...hey, you never know when you're going to run into pirates. :laughing
 

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That' a very interesting question you ask there. I'd like to know the answer to that one too. I was contemplating a day trip to the Bahamas which I know is another "country." And it would be prohibited. Do commercial boats provide lockers, etc? International waters used to be considered 5 miles away from a US shoreline. Is that still the case?
 

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I see no problem with carrying concealed on a boat as long as you know for certain that the boat will not go beyond international waters and into another country. It's easy if you are the captain of your own vessel but if you are on a party boat etc, then you are not entirely in control of where you might end up. If because of emergency you end up docking in some other country you might be in for a world of trouble. Kinda like the show on National Geographic Channel "Locked up Abroad" :eek:.

Are you better off leaving it ashore and putting your security in the hands of the captain? I don't know :confused:
 

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:pistols rather get a fine then a 9 in my head for not carrying someplace where i know no one else will protect me or my family and on those boat trips out in the gulf pirates do still exist and they are armed with ak47s etc. :ak
no one is responsible for your safety in mostly every place you go. unless it has armed guards then i would think about leaving the gun in the car.
 

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If you are not a Bahamsa citizen arriving in the Bahamas aboard a private vessel Bahamas Customs has special proviisons for firearms. They are cleared into the Bahamas but must remain onboard --- do not under any circumstances take them ashore, that is a very serious offense in the Bahamas.

As with any advice, you should check with the Embassy or Consulate of the Bahamas before departing for the Bahamas.
 

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I went on a boat ride about two weeks ago and just before i board the boat i remember i have my weapon on me ( i am so comfortable with my gun it does not feel any different than a cell phone ) the question is Does your cwl valid on sea as well as land ? or do you have to give it to the captian ontill you return to port ? or does it depends on how far out to see you go ? I left it on land to prevent any misunderstanding but the thought accored that the car could get broken into while you were at sea:eek:

Fl s 790.025 applies here.

I'nation waters/maritime law you are good to go. Unless the UN is owner-operator of all the oceans now?

I have been stopped in St johnsR between Jax and Palatka open carry more than once. Good to go. We weren't even questioned about our guns. Just where is the beer and who is driving?

You travel the big pond without a good center-fire rifle, it's not inconceivable for you to end up with more than a sun burn.

Good question.

SAPPERS FORWARD
 

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The best place for your gun is in a proper holster on your person. The danger immediately escalates if you remove the gun to ask someone to "hold" it for you. You would still be responsible for any mishap anyway. Always keep it on your person and keep it concealed. Carry a lock box just in case you have to visit a statue restricted location. Otherwise keep on trucking.
 

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Don't even think of taking it to the Bahamas. I lived there for 2 years. If you commit a crime, you go to jail. Jail is on another island. Break a bone & it'll get taken care of.... when you get out.
 

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If you commit a crime, you go to jail. Jail is on another island. Break a bone & it'll get taken care of.... when you get out.
Don't like the anti-gun part but I like the punishment part. We need more of that here. :laughing
 

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They always sent the disbursing Officer to court with us for even traffic tickets. They didn't want U.S. Military goin gto their jail becaus eof lack of funds.
 

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Article II of the Florida Constitution sets the seaward boundaries as three miles from the shore along the Atlantic and three leagues (3.56 miles) along the Gulf coast. U.S. territorial waters was extended by Ronald Reagen to 12 miles off the coast. So your CWFL would be valid for the first 3 miles or 3.56 on the Gulf side, after that Federal law is in effect until you reach the 12 mile limit and after that you would be in international waters.

SECTION 1. State boundaries.--

(a) The state boundaries are: Begin at the mouth of the Perdido River, which for the purposes of this description is defined as the point where latitude 30°16'53" north and longitude 87°31'06" west intersect; thence to the point where latitude 30°17'02" north and longitude 87°31'06" west intersect; thence to the point where latitude 30°18'00" north and longitude 87°27'08" west intersect; thence to the point where the center line of the Intracoastal Canal (as the same existed on June 12, 1953) and longitude 87°27'00" west intersect; the same being in the middle of the Perdido River; thence up the middle of the Perdido River to the point where it intersects the south boundary of the State of Alabama, being also the point of intersection of the middle of the Perdido River with latitude 31°00'00" north; thence east, along the south boundary line of the State of Alabama, the same being latitude 31°00'00" north to the middle of the Chattahoochee River; thence down the middle of said river to its confluence with the Flint River; thence in a straight line to the head of the St. Marys River; thence down the middle of said river to the Atlantic Ocean; thence due east to the edge of the Gulf Stream or a distance of three geographic miles whichever is the greater distance; thence in a southerly direction along the edge of the Gulf Stream or along a line three geographic miles from the Atlantic coastline and three leagues distant from the Gulf of Mexico coastline, whichever is greater, to and through the Straits of Florida and westerly, including the Florida reefs, to a point due south of and three leagues from the southernmost point of the Marquesas Keys; thence westerly along a straight line to a point due south of and three leagues from Loggerhead Key, the westernmost of the Dry Tortugas Islands; thence westerly, northerly and easterly along the arc of a curve three leagues distant from Loggerhead Key to a point due north of Loggerhead Key; thence northeast along a straight line to a point three leagues from the coastline of Florida; thence northerly and westerly three leagues distant from the coastline to a point west of the mouth of the Perdido River three leagues from the coastline as measured on a line bearing south 0°01'00" west from the point of beginning; thence northerly along said line to the point of beginning. The State of Florida shall also include any additional territory within the United States adjacent to the Peninsula of Florida lying south of the St. Marys River, east of the Perdido River, and south of the States of Alabama and Georgia.

(b) The coastal boundaries may be extended by statute to the limits permitted by the laws of the United States or international law.
 
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