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My focus on fixed sights versus the dot is different to me. (terminology picayune)

Suppressor height sights installed but going to the range happening today.
I’m on the fence about a red dot on my carry pistol for distance shooting if ever needed. So, I’m trying to figure out what is being said here.

Are you saying that with the dot you can see the dot and the target clearly? That doesn’t seem possible to me as your eyes can only focus on one thing at a time at two different distances (at least mine do). Or are you saying you prefer to see the target focused and the dot blurry? Wouldn’t that be the same with irons?

Also, are your new irons co-witnessing with the dot?


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Thanks for the return from the weeds to the point of my original post.

Yes, both the dot and target appear clearly. My focus remains on the target, while the dot is clear. Noteworthy, perhaps, that with my 20/150 vision uncorrected, the dot becomes a bright blur, regardless of focal point.

My irons are back-ups only, in the event of dot failure. There is no co-witness. Trying to co-witness will result only in lesser accuracy and frustration. Also, the aligned irons produce a different point of aim than the dot, at least at closer ranges. I ignore the irons.
Thanks for the clarification. I have experience with dots only on carbines. I have shot pistols with a dot but, only a handful of times.

No co-witness, copy that. I can see how it would get “cluttered” in your sight picture if it was co-witnessed.

You will see the red dot superimposed over the target when used correctly Caleb. They are actually fairly easy to learn to use correctly for most without some form of eye issues.

In my own case, the astigmatism puts the dot a little less defined on the edges [ like it's frayed around the edge ]. That doesn't affect how accurate I can be with a dot. My issue with using a dot on a pistol is, it hinders my speed on threat with that first shot [ which may be the only shot that matters ].

How do I know that? 22 pistol steel plates [ of all sizes ] matches. 2nd or 3rd place with iron's using pistol QK [ unless ultra precision shots need be taken which they use quite often ] to 13th-15th place with the dot. The difference is the time to make that first shot [ bringing the gun to eye level, finding the dot, firing ].

I'm speaking to those little dots people put on pistols, not the old huge tubes we used back in the 80's in matches. Those tubes were large enough I could find the dot very quickly. How quickly? 5 head shots at 33 feet in 4.0 seconds from surrender position.
I as well have astigmatism and see the dots the same as you. Looks like a wool dryer ball after the load is done.

You mentioned the dot will slow your speed to first shot on the target. Would that matter if the target is at 10yds or 50yds? Would you be taking a fraction longer of the time at the further distances for that first shot? If so, would it matter if that is with irons or a dot?


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The Ameriglow XL height sights I installed are bottom 1/3 of aperture.
The pic doesn't accurately reflect what I see (front sight not that high), but you get the idea.
I have not been able to check fixed sight POI yet, will next range trip.
I'm a bit nearsighted, my glasses tend to fuzz front sights, but make the dot clear.
I'm able to have more focus on the target with the dot than fixed sights.
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I know the pic doesn’t do it justice but, it looks like the irons will be just barely over the bottom of the optic. But like you have said, they are a backup to the dot.


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