I'd say about half an hour. Helps if I drink some orange juice or something.
Cool camera mount / angle.Pistol reloads are one thing that I believe have learned to perform pretty quickly, whether it's an emergency (slide lock) or tactical reload. Even with revolvers and speedloaders I'm not half bad, and I'm left-handed which puts me at disadvantage to begin with.
An extra mag (or more) goes deeper than just the extra number of rounds on hand. It also accounts for the possibility of a mag malfunction.One school of thought however, if I can't get the job done with the full magazine I'm carrying.....
It's a personal decision, of course. I carry one extra mag in my front non-dominant-side pocket in a pocket mag holster. It's utterly unobtrusive. I wouldn't know it's there, except that I know it's there.At six assailants, I'd better be able to pick out the leader quick, and hope the rest scatter.
To be clear: I am definitely NOT saying extra mags are pointeless.
I'm saying: That at nearly age 60, I know myself fairly well -- and I'm just not the kind of guy to carry spare mags.
Granted, scary encounters / events could definitely change that.
But, I've made the decision that being armed (period. 100% in all allowed locations / situations) is about the best I'm going to personally pull off.
So, that all raises a question, in the context of your own experience and perspective... What is "enough" training?It's been estimated that about 1% of gun carriers ever take any training other than what's required to get their ticket. It's estimated that in 2019, 6,000,000 people carried a gun daily in the US. Leading one to estimate the number of people who take some formal training with their handgun which would be about 60,000. I seriously doubt 60K people take training but going by the 1% number of those who do seems to suggest just that.
Gun guys= people that carry; people that shoot more than recreationally [ like various pistol matches ]; people who take more than a basics course of handhold, trigger control and sight alignment showing a bare minimum of skills.
It's ALL good, now I'm one who doesn't shoot but once a year when my brother comes down for Xmas, BUT, I've got oodles of time on guns to the tune of 1.2 million rounds through pistols, more high level training on staying alive with a handgun than most will ever attain.
I once stopped shooting for 5 years in the mid 90's. When I picked up the shooting box and went for the first time in that 5 years, the proprioception was still there for all the skills. With the exception of the trigger finger needing more tune up to get to that 5 rds a second again [ 4 per was like oh so ho hum LOL ]
I'm no longer a gun guy, many times not carrying a handgun for weeks during a motor trip with my brother or crossing into Canada or Mexico [ verboten ]. Just taking the PUG 22mag in the tank bag [ which goes every where with me when off the motor.
Agreed, of course. My point was that Brownie seems to look down his nose at those who have not trained beyond the basic marksmanship / CCW courses. And of course, I agree with him about that not being adequate on a practical level. My intent was to ask him at which point (if there is one) would he be satisfied that said people are no longer among the "unwashed."There's no real way to quantify what constitutes "enough" training. You can do everything right and still die. Hell, even military Tier 1 operators get killed sometimes, and it probably isn't due to a lack of training.
If you manage to survive a gunfight unscathed, I'd say you had enough training.
Thread drift alert!I am always truly astonished at that and end up asking myself the same question: "HOW can THAT possibly happen?" I know the answers - intellectually, of course - but GEEZ!!!!!
I wish that was the simple explanation. But it's not. I've seen FAR too many of these newbies showing up at the range having NO idea why they can't hit the target with their new scope. They literally do not know that scopes have to be sighted in for the rifle.Looks like a bunch of people used it as a target instead of taking the time to go set one up properly
I suspect you are right. And that's why I did not speculate as to my "reload prowess." The numbers don't lie, eh? I believe I'm the only one here who has posted numbers.I suspect far more people think they can reload faster than that, than actually can.
Some say that dry fire isn't the same as live fire practice. Well, yeah.... But that doesn't render dry fire useless or a waste of time. Pretty much every pro shooter on the planet uses dry fire practice. A LOT of it.One more additive...... you can use all that modern technology to help you gauge where you are at.....but when it comes to the real life situation ......practice it on the range under duress.....it makes a difference....
Oh, I see... so because my priorities aren't the same as yours... well, I guess I will just have to go through life sucking at my firearms skills, according to the "Tao of Brownie."Expense shouldn't be a closed gate to "staying alive practice". Having spent something on the order of 60K in expenses traveling for 2 decades for training all over the US, with someone who can afford as well as impart "stay alive" skills, I find the reasons given like "it's too far away", "it costs too much to rent a range" "don't have the time as I work" all sorta funny.
I worked 80-90 hours a week, found time to shoot two matches every weekend for 8-10 years. Found time to travel long distances and the necessary funds to attend courses that were going to give me a leg up where staying alive with a handgun is concerned.
Bottom line, it's about ones priorities, not so much finances, time/expenses.