Question about a no carry sign.

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DocCCW

Discussion Starter · Sep 18, 2009

I was dinning at a resturant on the same property as a chain jewelry store. My girlfriend and I decided to go into the jewelery store to browse around but before entering I saw a notice posted on the enterance. It read as follows:

"No person shall carry, possess, have under the person's control, convey or attempt to convey a firearm, concealed firearm, dangerous ordnance, handgun, or deadly weapon on or onto this land, parking lot or premises."

I am a bit a confused as to how they can restrict someone from being on the land or parking lot. In order to gain access to the other resturants or hotel you have no choice but to enter the land or parking lot. Luckily it's a low end store and I'd never purchase anything from them, but can they do this? Btw, the store is Jared's in Boca Raton just off of Glades Rd.

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Paladin

· #2 · Sep 18, 2009

Legally that sign isn't enforceable. If you enter the business they can have you removed for trespassing but they can't restrict the parking lot.

I'm sure TS will post the state statues so I won't bother quoiting them.

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Paladin

· #8 · Sep 18, 2009

TampaSsgt said:
Since the " No Carry " Signs are not included in Florida Statute 790.06 (12), they are not enforceable by law.

I knew TS would come through with the statutes. :dancingbanana

Thanks man.

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Paladin

· #15 · Sep 19, 2009

Mac45 said:
Ah, grasshopper. You ignored the first part of the statute:

"810.08 Trespass in structure or conveyance.--

(1) Whoever, without being authorized, licensed, or invited, willfully enters or remains in any structure or conveyance, or, having been authorized, licensed, or invited, is warned by the owner or lessee of the premises, or by a person authorized by the owner or lessee, to depart and refuses to do so, commits the offense of trespass in a structure or conveyance. "

By prohibiting entry to anyone in possession of a firearm, the owner of the establishment is rescinding any implied authorization, license or invitation to enter. If the sign promises arrest and prosecution for entering while in possession of a firearm, violating it could result in not only your arrest, but your conviction for trespass while armed. Bye bye CWL and possibly your entire firearms collection.istols

That is, of course, if the owner doesn't think you are a robber and shoots you dead. But, do what you gotta do..

But doesn't a store that is open for business constitute an implied invite to enter?

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Paladin

· #19 · Sep 19, 2009 (Edited)

Steve48 said:
I don't think so either. With respect to the sign, you could simply say that you didn't see it. Now, if they posted a guard at the entrance who directed your attention to the sign, and warned everyone not to enter the store with a firearm, then I'd be concerned.

There are a few places that I go to often like Publix or Walmart that I've checked for signs but other than that I don't look for signs too much.

They aren't legal and I keep the weapon concealed. If anyone was to say anything then I'll just say I didn't see the sign (actually I wasn't looking for it) and that I won't ever be back - then I'll leave.

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