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Question about 5.56 (or 223) ammo
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Anything that is used to hold up targets will be damaged by strikes whether it's FMJ, HP, etc. We aren't shooting Nerf guns.
HP transfers more energy to target, but has reduced ability to penetrate than an FMJ.
Personally, I'm not going to a range that forces me to use frangible or HP for target practice, but considering the terminal ballistic differences between the rounds, odds are there is a method to their madness.
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And what would that be? Give me a solid reason why an outdoor range wouldn’t allow you to use FMJs?
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I have doubts about that.
Based on my own knowledge and experience, I cannot conceive of any logical reason an outdoor range with standard berms would prohibit FMJ rifle ammo. Nor have I ever encountered such a rule at any of the ranges I've used. Ever. Tracers? Yes. Steel tipped / penetrators? Yes. Both logical. FMJ??? Illogical.
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Precisely why I came here to ask. I’ll be darned if I can come up with any logic. But, as I say, I’ve encountered at least 3, maybe 4, ranges w/similar restrictions. Both indoor and out. In fact, mostly outdoor. As that’s my preferred range. But, IMHO if you’ve got a range, in or out, that advertises rifle but have chosen a backstop that can’t handle FMJ in the most common caliber out there, you’ve made a mistake.
Backstop isn't thick enough to stop an FMJ, but will stop frangible and HP? Are they worried about ricochets?
Which type of bullet penetrates further? It can't be the frangible. The HP mushrooms, transfers it's energy faster and so stops sooner.
Is it possible that the range owner(s) are idiots? Sure, but ranges tend to make rules based on what has gone wrong, namely lawsuits.
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Well for what Radtek is saying it’s the first I’ve ever heard of something that silly. Some indoor ranges for a while insisted shooters buy the stores ammo and only allowed that. But then when ammo availability dwindled and so did their business they stopped that foolishness.
For outdoor ranges the only rule I’ve encountered here is no tracers because they don’t want the place being set on fire. Other than that FMJs and green tips are fine.
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I have verified that Garland Public Shooting Range (who I previously linked above and called to verify no FMJ) does indeed have berm backstop. in other words, dirt.
Beats me. I have half a mind to go one day just so I can ask. Perhaps they’re worried someone might overshoot and ding the power pole in the distance?
picture isn’t mine, swiped from a review of the place.
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Beats me. I have half a mind to go one day just so I can ask. Perhaps they’re worried someone might overshoot and ding the power pole in the distance?
picture isn’t mine, swiped from a review of the place.
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Well that’s a first. Don’t think I’ve ever seen a power pole behind a berm like that before?
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Wonder how many people sneak a shot now and then. I have no idea how long that would be.
ETA….Never mind. According to Google Earth, appears to be about 240 yards.
That’s doable. 😬
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There is literally absolutely nothing beyond that berm as seen by your last pic. Makes even less sense to not allow FMJs now.
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