[marinakorp]

Hi folks,

I will be traveling to your fair state for a wedding this coming weekend. I have a LTCF (License to Carry Firearms) from PA, and am aware that there is reciprocity between our States.

I have read the websites about where I can and can not carry ("BARS" - but the "resturaunt is OK, courtrooms, police stations, schools (primary, seconday, and college), polling place, govt meeting place, nuisance places...etc ...etc.) and is fairly similar to PA (except the bars..in PA = OK)

In Pa... the "NO GUNS ALLOWED" sign does not carry weight of law... if found carrying a weapon, the proprietor can ask you to leave...refuse and it is trespassing and not necessarily a weapons charge...but doesn't look good.

I have 2 questions, not readily answered by viewing the FLA website (s).

1 - Duty to inform officer of CCW (carry concealed weapon). If stopped for a motorvehicle infraction (pick one) what is the "duty to inform" the officer. In PA...there is no DUTY and is not required.

2 - NO GUNS ALLOWED - is there legal weight attached to these signs... in the highly remote chance that my weapon is "discovered" (from what I believe FLA laws to be - CONCEALED MEANS CONCEALED) or required to be used for a lawful purpose.

 

[Timbal]

As far as I'm aware, no, there is no requirement to duty to inform officer of CCW status. If they ask if there is a weapon present, that's a different story.

No legal weight attached to no guns allowed signs besides the proprietors asking you to leave if they wish you to.

I would like some of the more experienced members to chime in here to either prove/disprove my knowledge.

Oh, and have fun in Florida!

 

[Rvrctyrngr]

Timbal is quite correct. No duty to inform law enforcement that you are carrying; 'no guns' signs carry no weight of law (excepting those places on the prohibited list, as mentioned).

Enjoy your trip!

 

[marinakorp]

Thanks for the clarifications. :thumsup

Will be in Jacksonville for a few days. Looking forward to a good time / stay in the state...hope the weather cooperates. :dancingbanana

Take care.

 

[Paladin]

One clarification - the signs have no weight in Florida but if asked to leave and you don't then it is simple trespassing and that will get out in trouble with the law.

 

[Rvrctyrngr]

Actually, it could be an 'Armed Tresspass' charge, which is a bit more serious.

 

[marinakorp]

One clarification - the signs have no weight in Florida but if asked to leave and you don't then it is simple trespassing and that will get out in trouble with the law.

Understood...similar to Pa. - Private property rights superceede the individuals rights.

In Pa...it is a trespassing charge... read similar to FLA rules..armed trepassing.

If asked to leave...I have no problem with getting the hell out of Dodge.

 

[steve66]

Thanks for the clarifications. :thumsup

Will be in Jacksonville for a few days. Looking forward to a good time / stay in the state...hope the weather cooperates. :dancingbanana

Take care.

Jacksonville? make sure you bring an extra Mag...or 2

 

[SuperTrkrE2812]

Hi, Welcome to Florida, Lock & Load!!!!

Steve66 is right, bring 2 extra mags wth you, and stay away from the bad sides of town (all 4 sides):rolf
Seriously, all you have to do is go to http://www.jacksonville.com and read all about the crime in this city.
It has gotten pretty bad.
The bad sides are Northside, Southside, Eastside and Westside.

 

[J T]

As of November 27th, there were 135 murders in Jacksonville.

Stay safe....

 

[FL Devil Dog]

Hi folks,

I will be traveling to your fair state for a wedding this coming weekend. I have a LTCF (License to Carry Firearms) from PA, and am aware that there is reciprocity between our States.

I have read the websites about where I can and can not carry ("BARS" - but the "resturaunt is OK, courtrooms, police stations, schools (primary, seconday, and college), polling place, govt meeting place, nuisance places...etc ...etc.) and is fairly similar to PA (except the bars..in PA = OK)

In Pa... the "NO GUNS ALLOWED" sign does not carry weight of law... if found carrying a weapon, the proprietor can ask you to leave...refuse and it is trespassing and not necessarily a weapons charge...but doesn't look good.

I have 2 questions, not readily answered by viewing the FLA website (s).

1 - Duty to inform officer of CCW (carry concealed weapon). If stopped for a motorvehicle infraction (pick one) what is the "duty to inform" the officer. In PA...there is no DUTY and is not required.

2 - NO GUNS ALLOWED - is there legal weight attached to these signs... in the highly remote chance that my weapon is "discovered" (from what I believe FLA laws to be - CONCEALED MEANS CONCEALED) or required to be used for a lawful purpose.

Wondered about Duty to inform myself. I was pulled over for moderate speeding this morning by Tampa Police. Otherwise I'm law abiding. Presented both license and CWP. No issue. In fact, the officer let me go with a verbal warning. I feel it's a better idea to reveal the fact there's a concealed weapon voluntarily. It seems to me the "courtesy" of informing could prevent a misunderstanding.

 

[Jbuck]

Wondered about Duty to inform myself. I was pulled over for moderate speeding this morning by Tampa Police. Otherwise I'm law abiding. Presented both license and CWP. No issue. In fact, the officer let me go with a verbal warning. I feel it's a better idea to reveal the fact there's a concealed weapon voluntarily. It seems to me the "courtesy" of informing could prevent a misunderstanding.

FL Devil Dog,

Thanks for this post. I appreciated reading your real world experience. I've read some of the posts for and against voluntarily informing LE about carrying during a traffic stop (not that I'm in any hurry to find out myself). I think I'd do the same thing as you in the same situation.

Jim

 

[T.S.]

Thanks for the clarifications. :thumsup

Will be in Jacksonville for a few days. Looking forward to a good time / stay in the state...hope the weather cooperates. :dancingbanana

Take care.

What'll you be carrying in Jacksonville?

Hope it is a big caliber, with a large capacity magazine!!

Have fun & stay safe!!

 

[Rvrctyrngr]

What'll you be carrying in Jacksonville?

Hope it is a big caliber, with a large capacity magazine!!

Have fun & stay safe!!

Mannnnnnn.....that's just not right! Jax isn't bad. I haven't had to shoot anyone ALL YEAR (yet). :supergrin:

 

[T.S.]

Mannnnnnn.....that's just not right! Jax isn't bad. I haven't had to shoot anyone ALL YEAR (yet). :supergrin:

Yes Sir, I understand that ..... but the year is still young!! :rolf

 

[SuperTrkrE2812]

Yes Sir, I understand that ..... but the year is still young!! :rolf

The year is still young is true.
Jan 2nd and jax already has 3 murders.:rolf

 

[Rvrctyrngr]

The year is still young is true.
Jan 2nd and jax already has 3 murders.:rolf

Northside....doesn't count!

Jacksonville's violence problems could be solved by tactically nuking a 4 square mile area just north of the St. John's river. :drinks

 

[YARDDOG]

Do not pic on the NORTH SIDE OCEANWAY=NORTHSIDE The northwest-side is the worst When I grew up on the northwest side it was alot different 35 Years ago PS laws are same Except when asked to leave LEAVE or it's ARMED TRESSPASS=FELONY

 

[ZO6Vettever]

Steve66 is right, bring 2 extra mags wth you, and stay away from the bad sides of town (all 4 sides):rolf
Seriously, all you have to do is go to http://www.jacksonville.com and read all about the crime in this city.
It has gotten pretty bad.
The bad sides are Northside, Southside, Eastside and Westside.

I just clicked on that link and see it is currently 36 degrees. Is this really in Florida??? Only kidding!

 

[T.S.]

I just clicked on that link and see it is currently 36 degrees. Is this really in Florida??? Only kidding!

It is just that darn weather all those "Yankees" bring with them when they come down from the "Great White North"!! :rolf