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Concerning pro 2A organizations, that are fully utilizing membership funds to keep our 2A right intact, what organizations are suggested? NRA, of course, is well known, some like it some do not. GOA? Or others?

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Anything Dudley Brown is associated with
Why????
Because , with him, You know where your hard earned $$$$$ is "NOT" going.
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GOA had done nothing in Florida that I've seen. Look at Florida Carry
 
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GOA had done nothing in Florida that I've seen. Look at Florida Carry
That is changing. GOA has a new state director for the first time in history AFAIK and they are ramping up their operations. Same for FL Gun Rights it seems too.

The NRA on the other hand, hasn't passed any major pro-gun legislation in over a decade in Florida despite having a super majority in the legislature. Marion Hammer is making $400k on the backs of her donors and the donors are getting nothing in return.
 

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What have we gained here in Florida vs what we have lost! I am not convinced any organization is actually making a great deal of difference for us. This is not bad mouthing any of the Pro 2 A groups....this is just my opinion as to what good has come about in the , let's say last 5 years. I always say the same thing....we and our republican majority somehow do not seem to manage to overcome the Liberals and the Disney/tourist groups in obtaining a sure fire firearms freedom here in Florida. Also there are several reasons, starting with individual opinions and stances on what people see as needed or wanted or must have concerning firearms. Red Flag Laws...the intent is to keep mentally unstable people from owning and potentially harming others. Now common sense and an honest outlook tells us that is a good thing. Now tell us how to implement such a law as to make it fool proof against liberal oversight and abuse...you cann't because there is not way possible. Open carry! It is simple...not enough people really do care about doing it....sorry honest fact once again. Constitutional Carry?....Well there are so many snakes in the grass with this one but the main glaring fact is ...we once had it, lost it, and just goes against the politicians gut checks to be a supporter seeing how gun owners and the gun wearing residents are greatly out numbered in the state...another fact that many in here fail to believe or accept is as a problem for us. For me....the NRA is about the best option ( And I am NOT a 100% supporter of their little gang of thieves either) ...other organizations..... they may have a few good people in those organizations but not enough clout and not enough oversight making them as or more susceptible to fraud and waste as the NRA.! Organizations are fine to a point, but the real influence and way to achieve pro gun rights is electing pro gun politicians!!!! We have a few, we have a few that are 90% ....70%....and we have a few that could not care less about anything other than their paycheck and future pension. Those we have to weed out and not those that do not agree on 100% of what each and every gun owner desires. We can not agree in here on 100% of subject matter, how can we hold them to doing that when we have ex LEOs, military, NRA instructors, Federal agents, and hundreds of years worth of gun experience under out belts? This is why so many in here have a problem with a few jump on some pf the politicians and claim they are not real pro gun representatives. A rep or senator votes for every gun law and bill to be pro gun and give gun owners everything.....except , maybe they voted for the bump stock ban. So you are going to vote for a liberal that has voted for ANTI GUN laws his or her entire political career over that? Well good luck achieving anything in the long term for gun rights in Florida. We the voters, and not an organization control our rights. Stop depending of any organization for firearm freedom!!
 

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Just stop with your anti NRA drivel.GOA has done nothing, and neither have you. Tired of you badmouthing those of us in the NRA..piss off
 
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BBOYCARS,
Where in the heck do you come up with this crap///
$400,000 (DUH!)
OMG, even creepy Joe don't create propaganda as stupid as this.
Ronnie

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She borrowed $$$$ and Paid it back "WITH INTEREST" low Interest but Interest.
 

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Tired of you badmouthing those of us in the NRA..piss off
False. The NRA has many great members. I am not badmouthing them. I am however badmouthing the NRA "leadership" who are taking advantage of the generosity of their members and giving nothing in return.
 

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Old news and it all was investigated and found no fraud or extortion involved.
There are Post on this forum from a year or two ago about her so go find something new.
If you don't like the N.R.A. you can opt out at any time.
The SMEAR TACTICS are how the democratic cult does things.
The $200,000 covers her office and staff in Tallahassee and traveling expenses for her and her staff if they need to go to Washington or anyplace on business.
The N.R.A. must be doing something the way the news media keeps what they do a secrete and how the CULT is out to destroy the organization.
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The $200,000 covers her office and staff in Tallahassee and traveling expenses for her and her staff if they need to go to Washington or anyplace on business.
I don't think it does, but prove me wrong. Do you have a source for that?


I would have no problem with her making $400k if she were kicking ass, or at least making some effort to advance major pro gun legislation. But she isn't. And right now she is actively praising someone who caused her to file a lawsuit against a gun control law they passed.
 

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Don't you feel like your in the wrong forum bboycars, I hear many dimocrap websites are looking for propaganda helpers and they pay better, so good bye in advance.
 

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GOA leadership takes money and has never advanced legislation here. Ever. Let's be clear..if it were not for Marion Hammer all those states that enjoy your bogus Constitutional carry wouldn't even BE carrying. She and the NRA got shall issue passed HERE in Florida, and it spread nationwide. Meanwhile, GOA has done NOTHING here in Florida. Because of you and your leaders nonsense postings and attacks here, I've convinced 3 people at work and 2 on other forums to steer clear of GOA.
 

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I stay in the N.R.A. and will till I die because they are still the best at protecting our 2nd. amendment
Like I said, The Communist, socialist Democrat CULT would not be going after the N.R.A. with their smears and lies so much if the N.R.A. was not a threat to their disarm America agenda.
I stay in the G.O.A. because someday they may do something other then repeat what has already happened.
Florida Carry does keep me informed and is not really doing enough to stir the Tallahassee pot.
S.A.F is something I do not know a lot about .
I just stay in all of these ,but it is the N.R.A. that still has the most clout and still is working by keeping the Communist "CULT" worried with five million PLUS members.
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I don't think it does, but prove me wrong. Do you have a source for that?


I would have no problem with her making $400k if she were kicking ass, or at least making some effort to advance major pro gun legislation. But she isn't. And right now she is actively praising someone who caused her to file a lawsuit against a gun control law they passed.
Your first question, There was plenty of research about a years ago from members on this forum I would lkie to know where you get your facts? CNN or MSNBC Etc.????
Your Second statement.
Andrew Gillum probably would have been our governor if Marion did not do her due diligence and get the information to all over Florida and "NOT" just N.R.A. members on what he was and was about.
I get more information from her on Florida gun control bills then G.O.A. or Florida carry
Ronnie

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Tell your friends and bosses at :

  • Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. ...
  • Coalition to Stop Gun Violence. ...
  • Everytown for Gun Safety. ...
  • Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America. ...
  • Mayors Against Illegal Guns. ...
  • Third Way. ...
  • Gun Free Kids.
Ronnie said hi,
 
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At one point, I was in:
NRA
SAF
GOA
Florida Carry

Now, it's just NRA and SAF. Life memberships in both.
 

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SAF is SecondAmendmentFoundation.org, correct?
With some of these organizations, I am noticing slight variations in name and website addresss to join up. Most likely not the real deal and scams.
 

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GOA leadership takes money and has never advanced legislation here.
Because they are just getting started. This has already been explained, please try and keep up.


if it were not for Marion Hammer all those states that enjoy your bogus Constitutional carry wouldn't even BE carrying. She and the NRA got shall issue passed HERE in Florida, and it spread nationwide.
Yes, she used to do some good work back in the day, no denying that. But over most of the last decade she has done NOTHING on any major pro-gun legislation, and is now actively praising the politicians who passed gun control on us in 2018. And she didn't stop the gun control from happening (I've even heard she supported it).
 
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