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Position SUL

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Position SUL was originally developed in Brazil by Alan Brosnan and Max Joseph of TFTT and TEES specifically for close-quarters high-threat environments for maximum retention of the gun without being in a threatening posture while around people and potentially for extended periods of time.

SUL=Portuguese for “South”

Anyone been trained in using this position? Have used this position either in training or on the streets? Ever heard of SUL?

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I think it’s time for a Brownie in person training session in Florida again. 🧐
…and if Brownie wants to to a H2H training again in Florida, I’ll volunteer to be his Uke for the class. I still fall really well but my rolls are probably a little more squarish then roundish… but I hear it’s like riding a bike…you never forget. 🤣
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Just remember, the Uke/Nage relationship is reciprocal. :ROFLMAO:
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Andy Stanford, I met him at the 1" to 100 yrds" week long event in Laughlin, Nv. around 2008. Had seen him post all the time on GT, no proponent of threat focused pistol skills.
That’s right andy Stanford. Quite a bit an ADD individual. Front site press guy. I think I heard he was yeagers main instructor. He hired a good instructor for the “police Hall of Fame” range who WP and i went for his classes. I onnly had one class with him. I wasn’t impressed, way to ADD for me but fortunately his instructor was very good. Chuck was a much better instructor and well versed in pistol craft. It was a good foundation for us.
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That’s right andy Stanford. Quite a bit an ADD individual. Front site press guy. I think I heard he was yeagers main instructor. He hired a good instructor for the “police Hall of Fame” range who WP and i went for his classes. I onnly had one class with him. I wasn’t impressed, way to ADD for me but fortunately his instructor was very good. Chuck was a much better instructor and well versed in pistol craft. It was a good foundation for us.
Another credit was having something to do with Gunsite, hell if I can remember what the connection was now.
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As you may or may not know, we as F.F.T promote C.A.R as a limited (left side, vehicle and confined area) technique. It does not mean that the system is limited in itself, not at all. In fact there is MUCH, MUCH more to the system. C.A.R was created by Mr. Paul Castle as a evolution of the “modern shooting technique” . Here is some info on the system and its continued evolution since Paul's passing away.

Before his untimely death (due to cancer) in 2011, Paul Castle developed what he called the Center Axis Relock (C.A.R) system as an alternative to modern weaver and isosceles stances. This system offers better movement while shooting and acquiring sights quickly, especially for close quarter environments than other traditional styles. The C.A.R system was designed for fighting and moving in and through confined spaces with your gun in a ready position, which also reduces the likelihood of your gun being taken from you. If used properly, it’s another tool in the fighting toolbox. I have attached videos, articles and links to multiple C.A.R resources below.

Basic C.A.R Benefits as promoted by Paul Castle:
Stability: Holding your weapon close to your body and is more stable than holding your firearms with your arms fully extended
Eliminates double vision: With the sights held close to your face at reading distance, it eliminates the double sight picture and promotes greater accuracy
Improves weapon retention: Holding the weapon close to your body makes it more difficult for an attacker to take it away.

Can be used when seated: C.A.R is the best position when shooting from a car or any other seated position
Makes a smaller target: By presenting only one side your body to your attacker, it makes you harder to hit
Reduces recoil: Utilizing the body’s support structure in a natural way reduces felt recoil and helps you stay on target
Universality: C.A.R can be used regardless of your age, size, strength or gender
Speed: With your weapon close to your body, reloading and clearing stoppages is faster
Instinctive: C.A.R incorporates your body’s natural reactions

More Info:
The Evolution of (Paul Castle's) ….C.A.R and beyond:
Before Paul Passed:
The New C.A.R. Carrying on where Paul left off:
Website: https://naturaltactical.com/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLnSQoMpKps-TvdF7qrxG4Q
Facebook: Natural Tactical
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To answer the OP.... Yes been trained in both... I ran a Swat team for the state....it was great to start training those techniques....muzzling a fellow member of your team was not that great.....
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I will add to that scenerio..... think about.... you are in a high stress situation...adrenalin is high . looking for any possible threat that is the reason for you being there... last thing you want to worry about is that your team mate's gun may be pointed at you.... both techniques, when mastered, are a great peace of mind....
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