My wife & I are driving to Ft Lauderdale to take a cruise. She keeps a gun in te car. With FL's updated gun law, do we have to report this when entering the port parking area? We know we will not be carrying any weapons on the cruise, but is the unsafwe garage parking area monitored?:dunno
Port Everglades weapon in car question
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I've never been to Port Everglades, so I don't know the layout. However, if you have to go through the gate defining the boundary of the secure port area, then you cannot have a firearm with you either on your person or in the car.
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We discussed this before and I don't really remember how that discussion went. I cruise occasionally and refuse to drive to the ports unarmed. Therefore I've selected to treat ports like airports. I take a gun in and leave it in the trunk during the cruise. There is a well defined sterile area at the terminal and there are signs prohibiting weapons when entering the terminal.
By all means do not report that you have a gun. Take a copy of 790.06 with you in case your car is searched, and it won't be, and your position is that based on the law you thought you could carry in the car.
By all means do not report that you have a gun. Take a copy of 790.06 with you in case your car is searched, and it won't be, and your position is that based on the law you thought you could carry in the car.
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http://www.porteverglades.net/cruising/security/
Lately I have been using offsite parking. It is 1/3rd to 1/2 the cost of port parking and also solves your problem. Google port everglades parking.
Lately I have been using offsite parking. It is 1/3rd to 1/2 the cost of port parking and also solves your problem. Google port everglades parking.
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Well, They won't search your car if that is a concern for you. Up to you....
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One of the last discussions:
http://floridaconcealedcarry.com/Fo...696-port-everglades&highlight=port+Everglades
http://floridaconcealedcarry.com/Fo...696-port-everglades&highlight=port+Everglades
I started that thread. here is the conclusion. I kept my pistol in the truck's console, drove in and got my daughter with no problems. the gate guard didn't ask about any weapons.
just keep out of the secure areas and you won't have a problem. I would not carry it even if you have a ccw.
just keep out of the secure areas and you won't have a problem. I would not carry it even if you have a ccw.
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I was there the other week for the Home Show at the Broward Convention Center. Their main parking is just inside the port gate. When we approached the gate an armed guard came to the car and asked if we had any weapons. My wife turned to me and gave me a look, pretty obvious to the guard. I decided to be honest and said yes, he said we were not allowed in with the weapon. He directed us to parking not inside the port property. However, to get into the convention center from there we did have to go into the port area.
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This has bothered me for a while now.
A. I don't see why they didn't exclude the parking lot area from being restricted or, B., have provisions for passengers to check their weapon in with security upon arrival and they could lock it up in a locker for you while you are on your cruise.
They gotta realize a lot of passengers are driving from great distances (some of them) and therefore would like to be armed during the drive to and from.
Either one wouldn't be a difficult accommodate.
Am I correct in assuming that this is a Federal regulation and not a State of Florida reg?
A. I don't see why they didn't exclude the parking lot area from being restricted or, B., have provisions for passengers to check their weapon in with security upon arrival and they could lock it up in a locker for you while you are on your cruise.
They gotta realize a lot of passengers are driving from great distances (some of them) and therefore would like to be armed during the drive to and from.
Either one wouldn't be a difficult accommodate.
Am I correct in assuming that this is a Federal regulation and not a State of Florida reg?
It is actually a state statue, there may be a federal law, but I was never told about it or I forgot. I suggest you visit THIS website for information. You should e-mail [email protected] about your idea.
F.Y.I She should not get there super early right when the doors open up, trust me there is usually a line around the building to go through security in the terminal. The best thing would be to arrive at the terminal one hour before boarding stops. There is almost no passengers and therefor no lines to wait in if she gets to the terminal a hour before departure.
F.Y.I She should not get there super early right when the doors open up, trust me there is usually a line around the building to go through security in the terminal. The best thing would be to arrive at the terminal one hour before boarding stops. There is almost no passengers and therefor no lines to wait in if she gets to the terminal a hour before departure.
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Apparently, according to Gutmacher's book, it is a Florida statute, 311.12 Click ---> here for the statute.
Page 119 of Florida Firearms, Law, Use & Ownership. Jon Gutmacher, 7th edition.
I think this needs to be changed to something a little more reasonable. :dunno
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That's very confusing...790.06 makes no mention of port restrictions.
Why in the world would they make additional places that a person with a concealed permit cannot carry, but leave them out? Are they just trying to get people in trouble for breaking laws?
It reminds me of my first college, where there were no "no u turn" signs on campus, but the campus had a statute that said no u turns were allowed, so they gave out tickets for it all the time, even though no signs were posted. Unless you were a nerd, and like me, read through the entire campus parking rules (I wanted to know if backing into a spot was allowed), you'd never know, and would have to pay up.
Can someone help explain this to me? Should I call my senator and complain that their laws are confusing? I'm glad I saw this thread...I thought I recalled this mentioned in my CCW class, but I live by 790, and it makes no mention.
Why in the world would they make additional places that a person with a concealed permit cannot carry, but leave them out? Are they just trying to get people in trouble for breaking laws?
It reminds me of my first college, where there were no "no u turn" signs on campus, but the campus had a statute that said no u turns were allowed, so they gave out tickets for it all the time, even though no signs were posted. Unless you were a nerd, and like me, read through the entire campus parking rules (I wanted to know if backing into a spot was allowed), you'd never know, and would have to pay up.
Can someone help explain this to me? Should I call my senator and complain that their laws are confusing? I'm glad I saw this thread...I thought I recalled this mentioned in my CCW class, but I live by 790, and it makes no mention.
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That's a really good point. Never read the laws that way but your right, no mention of seaports in 790.06 as a prohibited place for us to carry. If you weren't familiar with 311.12, one could end up in trouble. Especially if you drove 5 hours to Miami to take a cruise and suddenly found out you couldn't have a gun in your vehicle to park there. Not good! :thumbsdwn
Para (1) (b) of 311.12 states the following "The provisions of s. 790.251 are not superseded, preempted, or otherwise modified in any way by the provisions of this section."
790.251 is the right to keep and bear arms in your vehicle.
I interpret that to mean Para (3) (b) applies to the restricted/secure areas of the port.
I intend to keep a copy of both statutes in my glovebox just in case.
790.251 is the right to keep and bear arms in your vehicle.
I interpret that to mean Para (3) (b) applies to the restricted/secure areas of the port.
I intend to keep a copy of both statutes in my glovebox just in case.
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Good catch. I agree with your assessment.
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OK ... we're now officially in the world of double-double-double negatives...
Just so I understand what you're saying:
1. 311.12 says no gun in the port
2. 790.251 supersedes 311.12?
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