[RadTek]

L prof

I agree with you and it is unfortunate. Fish, however does seem able to withstand the onslaught pretty easily. I think there’s one advantage to our legal training and that is we were trained and those of us who litigated, if we were to be successful, had to master the art of “hate the sin, not the sinner” it is conceivable to totally and absolutely disagree with someone but still treat them with respect. It’s just not easy.

Over the last few years, the political climate, In my estimation has taken a turn for the worse. Second amendment rights really separate society these days. In addition to the Battle between Republicans and Democrats and the eternal conflict between Lions and Hyenas, sailboaters and powerboaters, we have gun people and everyone else. There doesn’t seem to be a middle ground anymore. Some people love guns, some people think they are the root of all evil and there are not a lot that are ambivalent.

The forum runs the spectrum of human behavior but I will say that I have seen, believe it or not, things lighten up just a little bit. At one point, if anyone said anything conceivably critical of Trump, they would be skewered immediately. I have seen some folks soften a bit and even recognize that our president might tell a whopper once in a while but they believe he is the lesser of the two evils in tomorrow’s contest.

I guess what I’m saying is that some people just can’t conform to the laudable goal of treating each other with dignity and respect, that doesn’t make them bad. However, applying what you said regarding attacking the message and not the messenger, I think there’s hope for all of us.

Well stated.

One of my many criticisms of the left, particularly over the last 4 years, has been their efforts to squash opposing opinion. Their inability to accept anything that differs from their view. I’m not perfect, but I try to avoid being hypocritical. I’ve no qualms with Mr. Fish’s different values. And at least he is willing to listen and accept our’s. I question his sanity, wading into a decidedly conservative forum with liberal opinions. For example, I would be afraid to roll into a Ford or Chevy forum and promote Ram trucks. But I admire his bravery.

I think the forum has done well over the years keeping a lid on personal attacks for the most part without squelching freedom of expression or discourse. Most here seem to be able to handle a few flames now and then.

 

[LittleGator]

I don't hate The Fish and have broken bread with him on many occasions in addition to happily keeping watch over him and his classmates as an RSO on several courses he's taken. However, I do despise his trolling behavior on this forum. Again, hate the sin, not the sinner.

Bingo! True, it is not necessary or appropriate to insult another member, Nevertheless, The Fish does not merely express opinions different from most of the other members. He trolls. . He does not engage in honest debate. That is not his interest as evident by his posts. He simply appears to go the extra mile to get a rise out of others. That is why some may react with insults. Again, not excusing it. But, The Fish is far from blameless.

 

[bladenbullet]

I don't hate The Fish and have broken bread with him on many occasions in addition to happily keeping watch over him and his classmates as an RSO on several courses he's taken. However, I do despise his trolling behavior on this forum. Again, hate the sin, not the sinner.

well stated...i dont think anyone hates the sinner...but the troll gets what the troll deserves...i dont believe he expects any different and relishes the attention as much as anyone...

 

[edgehill]

Remember we both (and Edgehill) became RSO's at the same course.
I truly hope to break bread again.

Actually it was Racer88 who took the class with us. I believe Beerhunter was already an RSO when he moved back to Florida.

 

[Rick McC.]

Fish shot at the course in Okee when Paula and I came down. He didn’t shoot threat focused..but he shot.

I brought Brownies .45 Shield holster down, and he demo’ed with my .45 Shield. Beerhunter, Rick (ebl), S4 and I RSO’d that weekend.

Edit: I think that may have been the one that BH couldn’t make. It was the one where several of us brought extra firearms for others to try out; including a couple of Brian’s class three beauties.

 

[BeerHunter]

Actually it was Racer88 who took the class with us. I believe Beerhunter was already an RSO when he moved back to Florida.

Beat me to it! I was an RSO long before I worked as an RSO for any of Brownie's or later EBL's courses. 🤠

 

[RadTek]

well stated...i dont think anyone hates the sinner...but the troll gets what the troll deserves...i dont believe he expects any different and relishes the attention as much as anyone...

He does troll sometimes IMHO. However, far be it for me to cast the first stone. I’ve certainly reached out to bang on a cage or two in the nearly dozen years I’ve been moping around this joint.😇

 

[brownie]

Fish shot at the course in Okee when Paula and I came down. He didn’t shoot threat focused..but he shot.

I brought Brownies .45 Shield holster down, and he demo’ed with my .45 Shield. Beerhunter, Rick, S4 and I RSO’d that weekend.

Edit: I think that may have been the one that BH couldn’t make. It was the one where several of us brought extra firearms for others to try out; including a couple of Brian’s class three beauties.

I remember that weekend at Okee

 

[BeerHunter]

I remember that weekend at Okee

Me as well. I met you and EBL at OSS on the Friday before on my way back south to Boca from the house in the DPRofMD in I believe OCT 2016. Then was an RSO with EBL and Rick that weekend. 🤠