Well said, John.
Open carry in FL...any new info?
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We all have our points of view about open carry based on our experiences and backgrounds. As a person that grew up and lived in New York City all my life, the idea of open carry seems very foreign to me. This would no doubt be different if I grew up and lived in a rural part of the country, or an area where open carry was legal.
I also was surprised and disappointed by the inadequate training offered those taking the required CCW course when I went for my license. If you complete that course and feel you are sufficiently experienced and trained to carry a concealed weapon, you are sorely mistaken.
Where the problem seems to be for most strong believers in the 2nd Amendment is the role the State plays in determining and mandating training. While I personally would not mind a more rigorous course that demands a reasonable level of firearm proficiency and knowledge of the laws pertaining to justified use of deadly force, the realities of the current political climate leave us in a constant position of trying to defend against those looking at every turn to chip away, or take away our rights.
The election of Obama, and the Democratic control of the House and Senate have made this the most critical and dangerous moment in our recent history. Gun owners are rightfully concerned that these two bit, hack politicians in power will do everything in their power to change existing laws to make it as difficult if not impossible for us to exercise our Constitutional rights.
What they cannot outright ban, they will use other tactics to achieve their nefarious goals. Mandated gun owner insurance, bullet identification programs, Federal gun licenses, and on and on.
It is a constant tug of war, and right now the wrong side has the advantage in their grip on the rope. For those that cherish and exercise our Second Amendment rights, we must give no quarter to those that seek to undo our Constitutional rights.
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I also was surprised and disappointed by the inadequate training offered those taking the required CCW course when I went for my license. If you complete that course and feel you are sufficiently experienced and trained to carry a concealed weapon, you are sorely mistaken.
Where the problem seems to be for most strong believers in the 2nd Amendment is the role the State plays in determining and mandating training. While I personally would not mind a more rigorous course that demands a reasonable level of firearm proficiency and knowledge of the laws pertaining to justified use of deadly force, the realities of the current political climate leave us in a constant position of trying to defend against those looking at every turn to chip away, or take away our rights.
The election of Obama, and the Democratic control of the House and Senate have made this the most critical and dangerous moment in our recent history. Gun owners are rightfully concerned that these two bit, hack politicians in power will do everything in their power to change existing laws to make it as difficult if not impossible for us to exercise our Constitutional rights.
What they cannot outright ban, they will use other tactics to achieve their nefarious goals. Mandated gun owner insurance, bullet identification programs, Federal gun licenses, and on and on.
It is a constant tug of war, and right now the wrong side has the advantage in their grip on the rope. For those that cherish and exercise our Second Amendment rights, we must give no quarter to those that seek to undo our Constitutional rights.
We believe you. :drinks
That's an accurate observation, but I still contend that it is not an analagous comparison. Carrying a gun for self protection does not really equate to driving a car; shooting a gun more accurately compares to driving a car. And while operating a motor vehicle is quite common, self-defense shootings are exceedingly rare. It still sounds like you are seeking a solution to a thus far non-existent problem.
Try looking at it this way...
We don't put traffic lights at every intersection because
A) They aren't necessary at every intersection, and
B) It would be cost-prohibitive
But when a dangerous intersection is identified (usually as a result numerous traffic accidents), then a light gets installed. When innocent bystanders start getting shot accidentally by CWFL holders defending themselves, perhaps then it will be time to mandate additional training. But so far, that isn't happening. As a matter of fact, in the vast majority of situations where a firearm was used in self defense, no shots were fired; simply displaying a gun has proven to be sufficient in most cases to deter a criminal.
As far as Florida becoming the 'Wild West', I've been hearing that nonsense since they enacted concealed carry in 1987.
Boy, you're just making friends everywhere you go here.
Boy, you're just making friends everywhere you go here.
+1 AMEN :rolfLMAO
I was thinking the same thing. It's like a little child being disruptive in class. I have not read one of his posts that were not negative in some way.
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