Well said, John.
Well Priorty..... opinions are like anuses, everybody has one you know?Even the instructor who was a officer for many years said, pretty soon Florida is going to be like the wild wild west. While that was an exciting time and a time filled with great feeling of 'self protection', people also did not live very long.
We believe you. :drinksI really am a nice guy and I do not mean no harm.
That's an accurate observation, but I still contend that it is not an analagous comparison. Carrying a gun for self protection does not really equate to driving a car; shooting a gun more accurately compares to driving a car. And while operating a motor vehicle is quite common, self-defense shootings are exceedingly rare. It still sounds like you are seeking a solution to a thus far non-existent problem.I know earlier that someone said I wasn't comparing apples to apples when I mentioned cars and the licensing requirements. The real point I was trying to make was back when cars first came out, 100 + years ago there were like...um...5 cars on the road. Even when there were 50, you did not need traffic lights, stops signs, blinkers on the car, speed limit signs, etc. Now that there are millions of cars on the road you do. It just makes the world more managable (and safe). Does it remove all accidents and accident related deaths...no it does not but I got to believe it helps.
I really am a nice guy and I do not mean no harm. I was just stating that with carrying a gun either open or concealed brings great responsibility. My point in a nutshell is that although all of you on this board are responsible, many are not.]
Wrong. Not been shown in any statistics. Even just a SINGLE incident would be INSTANTLY splashed all over newspapers, TV and the net, and the storyline would be how "crippling" the "crisis" was, and how carry laws needed to be tightened, etc.
[SO, as a society...it is MY opinion...that they institute more training. It does not have to be from the state or the fed government it can be from the NRA, some private company or from Brownie.]
They are "private" courses now. If a law abiding citizen thinks or feels that they need more training...guess what....the PRIVATE SECTOR IS THERE TO FILL THE NEED. No need for the Gov. to stick its nose in where it IS NOT NEEDED.
[I know earlier that someone said I wasn't comparing apples to apples when I mentioned cars and the licensing requirements. The real point I was trying to make was back when cars first came out, 100 + years ago there were like...um...5 cars on the road. Even when there were 50, you did not need traffic lights, stops signs, blinkers on the car, speed limit signs, etc. Now that there are millions of cars on the road you do. It just makes the world more managable (and safe). Does it remove all accidents and accident related deaths...no it does not but I got to believe it helps.]
Public school strikes again. There are like..uh...a billion knives and bottles of Drano out there...better be careful!!!
[Same thing with guns....in my opinion. I just went to a basic handgun safety class today and had a great instructor. As you know this class is necessary to get a CC permit. He mentioned that when we go on to the range, we will fire 3 to 5 shots and he want to see if we are proficient with our guns. He, briefly laughed, and said the states definition of proficiency and his definition are on opposite spectrums. All the state cares about, barely, is that you can load it, shoot it and unload it. He also did say he was working to 'do more' so the requirement would be a little more strict.]
Did anyone stop this MORON instructor in mid sentence and tell the bozo that HE WAS IN CHARGE OF THE (expletive deleted) COURSE?????????
The Gov. was not holding a gun to his head and making him do a halfas job!!
[Again, no one here is taking your right to bear arms away. Even if you do not have the CC or OC permit you can still have a gun in your house and car. If you want to carry it in a super market or other public place, I think someone should make sure you know how to use it.]
I think someone should make sure that people like you don't have kids. Now, does that sound any less ridiculous?
[We had a lady that went to class tonight and shot a gun for the first time. In 90 days she can have her carry permit and be on the streets with it without ever shooting it again. I am sorry but that does not seem right.]
For all you have assumed, she may live on a large parcel of land, and bust off caps directly out her back door. That old lady could be Anne Oakley, for all you know!!!
[Maybe I am naive.]
Aww, gee.....maybe you are just a New York transplant who now votes in OUR LOCAL ELECTIONS and screws everything up for us down here??
[Maybe everyone that has a carry permit is as skilled as Brownie (except me). They must all know that different bullets are weighted differently and penetrate differently. THey must all know that when holding a loaded gun it is better to point it down (at 90 degree angle to ground) rather than up (as seen in cop movies). These must know when emptying a gun a physical inspection is also required because sometimes the extractor sometimes fails.
After reading some of the comments from my last post I got a little upset. I didn't think I would be thought of as being so far off base. As I thought a little more I think I was was getting reaction from people (and correct me if I am wrong) that were looking out for what was best for THEM. There only concern was their right to bear arms and that it wound not be taken away, monitored or regulated. Why? Because you want to be able to protect yourself and your family. That is your number one goal. And, there is nothing wrong with that...I completely understand.
So, as a result of that goal, protecting you and yours, you put everyone else (society) second.]
Society IS second. Individuality is first in a free country. If you can't handle the responsibility of driving a car safely among others, then don't do it. If you can't handle the responsibility of flying a small aircraft, then don't do it. Thank GOD above that the pilot who ditched that airliner in the Hudson river had the stones to be able to handle the RESPONSIBILITY of making an emergency landing!!!
[The theory here is that you would not be willing to subscribe to manadated training to reduce the potential of stray bullets or an accidental discharge by someone without the skills to carry.]
We got mad skills.:ak
[Your playing the percentages. And your right, you do not hear much in a way of accidental discharges or stray bullets....today...just like there weren't many accidents with only 50 cars on the road 100 + years ago.]
And still life goes on....wow. The theory here is you don't have any faith in your fellow man, and you are yearning for your Dear Leader to dictate to the Nth degree what everyone can and cannot do. Move to Cuba. It'll really clear your head.
[I know I will catch a lot a heat again from posting this but that is ok. I just wanted to say to you all that I really do not mean any harm and I am on the side of good. I think with the training, we can 'have our cake and eat it too'!]
No, you only FEEL like you are on the side of good. What you are is someone with a misbegotten liberal mindset, and you try so hard to make it better for the world, and then only wind up destroying everything you come into contact with.
[Even the instructor who was a officer for many years said, pretty soon Florida is going to be like the wild wild west. While that was an exciting time and a time filled with great feeling of 'self protection', people also did not live very long.]
Your instructor was a PRO-UNION ANTI-GUN COP. Wow. Big surprise.
Most historians are in perfect agreement in the fact that the "wild old west" was neither. People behaved themselves surprisingly well, and with almost NO GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT!!!!
[As always, I appreciate all of your thoughts and opinions and look forward to more of your guidance.
What ever. Gun owners are some of the worst enemies of our rights.I think it would make me nervous to see some people walking around with guns in open view.
Boy, you're just making friends everywhere you go here.
I have a life.Either I'm addicted or I don't have a life. I haven't quite figured it out yet.