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One Time , In Lakeland Fl , I Had A mixed Collection Around ( 70 ) . Prior to These I Had Presented To Me My Uncles USMC Kabar Knife. I Read About An Older Rutledge Knife Might Be Worth Looking Into . Also Some Other 'Offers' By Spyderco . It Would Be Helpful To Hear Any Pertinent Ideas By Members .
P.S. - I Also Have My RVN Custom Commemorative
Knife I Built W/Sheath . The Elk Handle Has A Small Pow/Mia metal Inserted/ Epoxied In The Top Of It . The Blade is a Buck Fixed 6 1/2" Very Sharp Blade .
Thanks "Gunner"(y)
 

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One Time , In Lakeland Fl , I Had A 'mixed' Collection Around ( 70 ) . Prior to These I Had 'Presented' To Me My Uncles 'USMC' Kabar Knife. I Read About An Older 'Rutledge' Knife Might Be Worth Looking Into . Also Some Other 'Offers' By 'Spyderco' . It Would Be Helpful To Hear Any Pertinent Ideas By Members .
P.S. - I Also Have My RVN "Custom Commemorative"
Knife I Built W/Sheath . The Elk Handle Has A Small Pow/Mia metal 'Inserted'/ Epoxied In The Top Of It . The Blade is a 'Buck' Fixed 6 1/2" Very Sharp Blade .
Thanks "Gunner"(y)
May not be your style, (or even a tactical knife - whatever that is?)...
But I like my Benchmade Griptillian G10. (..which also comes in a "mini" version)
In particular, I'm a big fan of their "AXIS" lock mechanism -- seems really safe to have on a folder.

Of course, Benchmade is in the sh!tter for that stunt they pulled chopping up confiscated guns for local law enforcement.
Not time to forgive them yet. (My opinion.)

But I do like their products.
 

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May not be your style, (or even a tactical knife - whatever that is?)...
But I like my Benchmade Griptillian G10. (..which also comes in a "mini" version)
In particular, I'm a big fan of their "AXIS" lock mechanism -- seems really safe to have on a folder.

Of course, Benchmade is in the sh!tter for that stunt they pulled chopping up confiscated guns for local law enforcement.
Not time to forgive them yet. (My opinion.)

But I do like their products.
Benchpoop.


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For everyday carry try the cutlery shoppe online for the best prices, I carry the SOG Spec elite 2 it's an auto folder with a 4" blade work's great for everyday stuff and in case of some fool with bad ideas.
 

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I second the Street Bowie Caleb recommended. (y)

I also love my double sharpened clip point ESEE-6, which I'm not sure is available anymore, but here's the ESEE-4 version. I also love my 1211 KA-BAR.🤠
 
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May not be your style, (or even a tactical knife - whatever that is?)...
But I like my Benchmade Griptillian G10. (..which also comes in a "mini" version)
In particular, I'm a big fan of their "AXIS" lock mechanism -- seems really safe to have on a folder.

Of course, Benchmade is in the sh!tter for that stunt they pulled chopping up confiscated guns for local law enforcement.
Not time to forgive them yet. (My opinion.)

But I do like their products.
OK Mr. Anduril - 'Google' Had a Quick Answer For your Question . A So Called 'Tactical' Knife Is one That is used To "Defends Ones Life" ! It Also Was Used as a 'Marketing' Tool . Another Mix Up Is When The Word Tactics Come into play. Possibly That Being "Trained" In The Use Of Face To Face Defense . It is Very Wide Open to Interpretation .. Of Course For Example The "Swiss Army Knife", Is Very 'Utilitarian' & Would Hardly Be Used To Stab Somebody With A Spoon Or Fork (lol) . Every One Has Their 'Own Opinion' Between Military ( Kabar Types" And 'Folders' ) Or & A Regular Household Knife .. Either Could Fall Into The Category Of Defending One's Life , Under a 'Life Saving' Event .. Hope This Helps ( Confusing ) In The Least ! Thanks ! 🍻
 

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Mr. Caleb .. Like I stated , Everyone Has Their Own Opinion ! I would Surmise That 'B.P.' Would Qualify In That Light . Thank You Both For Your Opinions . That Is What This Post Is All About ! Respectfully , "Gunner" ;)(y)
 

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Mr. Caleb .. Like I stated , Everyone Has Their Own Opinion ! I would Surmise That 'B.P.' Would Qualify In That Light . Thank You Both For Your Opinions . That Is What This Post Is All About ! Respectfully , "Gunner" ;)(y)
A little insight......

A: I consider Anduril as a friend (I guess). Therefor I will take jabs at his post every now and then.

2: I have boycotted Benchmade for what was mentioned by Anduril (my personal choice).

C: Benchmade makes really nice blades.


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A tactical knife

Folders-R-Us.ORG - The Tactical Fighting Folders (or Folding Knives) Site --- the first link written around 2003, maybe 2004.

"I have been asked for a description of what a fighting or tactical folder is. Lets start with definitions given for these words found in the American Heritage Dictionary.

Fight: To participate in combat; To contend with physically or in battle; To make ones way by or as if by combat; To quarrel or conflict and, A physical conflict between two or more individuals.

Tactical: Of or pertaining to tactic
Tactic: An expedient for achieving a goal; maneuver
Folder: One that folds

We can determine that a Fighting/Tactical folder would be a knife that folds as opposed to a straight blade; a knife that one may use physically in combat or battle; a folding knife used to achieve a goal [in this case, self defense].

From the common jackknife your grandfather carried [which did not have a locking mechanism to lock the blade in the open position] to the current genre of folders being manufactured by various companies and individual custom knife makers could all be considered under the right conditions to be a "Fighting/Tactical Folder".

Your grandfather's pocketknife could be considered a fighting/tactical folder if he used it to defend himself against an attack on his person. Would that old Uncle Henry folder with the nail nick in the blade he carried be the best tool for the task in this scenario? I would not think so, as that knife was not designed with these tasks in mind. It could be used in defense of ones person thereby making it, in this scenario, a fighting/tactical folder.

Various manufacturers and knife makers are constantly designing and redesigning their knives to enhance the ability to defend oneself from an aggressor. They are tasked with creating a folding knife that lends itself, through design and execution, to more effective means of defending ones person. Some form of criteria must be established which acts as a guideline for their fighting/tactical folders.

The criteria could be the designer's idea of what this type of tool should look like and what materials should be used. It could also be input from martial artists who have some background in defensive knife techniques. Each maker uses a different set of criteria that he or she feels is more important to the task of defense.

My own criteria for a Tactical/Fighting folder will probably differ from yours. What I want in a folder for its intended purpose may not fit what you feel is critical for you. Hence, we have numerous models to choose from making the selection process more difficult.

The following is the order of importance [for myself] when it comes to selecting a folding knife that I may use to defend myself from an attack. These may not be in the order you would choose and that's why we have the array of products on the market today which we can choose from.

My criteria from most important to least important:

1. The locking mechanism and the materials it is made from
2. The steel used for the blade and the Rockwell hardness of that steel
3. The ability to access the knife with either hand in an emergency
4. Handle material and grip shape
5. Blade design

The reasons behind my choices of most important attributes in a fighting folder:



  1. The locking mechanism on a folder has to be strong so that under extreme use the lock does not fail. If I am to carry the folder with personal defense in mind I want the blade locking mechanism to be the strongest I can find. All other concerns are useless unless the knife can be depended on to stay locked open and not collapse onto my tender fingers. [If they weren't tender at the start they sure would be once they were stumps from the blade collapsing under stress].
  2. Once we are confident that the lock won't fail, we are set to the task of which steel to have the blade made from. I want steel that can be hand sharpened easily. A steel that won't be brittle but has been heat treated properly for that particular alloy. I am not concerned with whether the steel is stainless or not as this is a personal defense weapon and will be carried always and probably never used for it's intended purpose. I have the luxury of time to care properly for the steel and will have the necessary tools to keep it at razor blade sharp.
  3. If the first two criteria are met we next want to be able to access the tool of choice with no delays. If the knife is there for possible defense and you can not access it immediately it is useless. I want my defensive folder to have a pocket clip so that I can attach it to my pocket or waistline for immediate access in an emergency.
  4. Handle material is a matter of personal choice. I make decisions on handle material based on how slippery the handle becomes when my hands are wet. Handle shape? I prefer the grips to have a flat profile instead of rounded grip design. You will certainly have your own preference and I do not profess one over the other to anyone. Personal choice based on your own experiences will serve you well without my interjecting here. What works for me may not work as well for you.
  5. Blade designs are too numerous to list here or explain the benefits or detractions of each. As I have stated earlier in this article knives and their design are a personal preference. What you like I may not consider and what I like you may not. I tend to stay with the clip point blades in non-serrated guise for my defensive needs.

The best defense knife I could own would be one that meets my defensive criteria above and that feels comfortable in my hand to start. Some have the best materials and locks yet do not "feel" right for some reason. Others may be minimally acceptable as to materials but just feel "right" for my hand.

Just carrying a folding knife for defense does not mean you will be able to access it in time to defend yourself or be able to escape injury. You will need to practice your defensive skills sets in "the draw drills" until you can access and open the knife one handed in less than 1 second from your preferred carry position. This is not as difficult as it seems. What most people find difficult is allocating the time necessary to become proficient with their chosen tool for self-defense.

You can have the most expensive fighting folder made on your person when troubles arise and without the knowledge base and skills sets from practicing and training for such possible encounters you may as well be carrying nothing.

If you are interested in obtaining defensive knife instruction or are in need of a fighting/tactical folder please feel free to contact me from the links on this site.


"Draw straight, keep your steel sharp and watch your back"

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OK Mr. Anduril - 'Google' Had a Quick Answer For your Question . A So Called 'Tactical' Knife Is one That is used To "Defends Ones Life" ! It Also Was Used as a 'Marketing' Tool . Another Mix Up Is When The Word Tactics Come into play. Possibly That Being "Trained" In The Use Of Face To Face Defense . It is Very Wide Open to Interpretation .. Of Course For Example The "Swiss Army Knife", Is Very 'Utilitarian' & Would Hardly Be Used To Stab Somebody With A Spoon Or Fork (lol) . Every One Has Their 'Own Opinion' Between Military ( Kabar Types" And 'Folders' ) Or & A Regular Household Knife .. Either Could Fall Into The Category Of Defending One's Life , Under a 'Life Saving' Event .. Hope This Helps ( Confusing ) In The Least ! Thanks ! 🍻
By that definition (i.e., something used to kill people)
There are people here (BBTBob, & Brownie's reputation comes immediately to mind) that could turn any ordinary item into something "tactical", if the situation ever called for it. Think "Tactical rear-facing child seat", or "Tactical cotton ball". :)

Probably put Beer Hunter in that mix too.
 

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Although I've been trained in several of brownie's Edged Weapon/H2H courses, I'm not even in the same galaxy of skill with blades as brownie. However, learning the "Wall if Edge" SD skill he taught me was a tremendous confidence builder!
(y) (y)🤠
 
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A little insight......

A: I consider Anduril as a friend (I guess). Therefor I will take jabs at his post every now and then.

2: I have boycotted Benchmade for what was mentioned by Anduril (my personal choice).

C: Benchmade makes really nice blades.


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Fantastic ! Of Couse You are Good Friends ! I"m Still Learning About 'Differences Of Opinions' ! Thank You Both For Your Individual Inputs !
"Gunner":cool:(y)
 

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Although I've been trained in several of brownie's Edged Weapon/H2H courses, I'm not even in the same galaxy of skill with blades as brownie. However, learning the "Wall if Edge" SD skill he taught me was a tremendous confidence builder!
(y) (y)🤠
Wall of edge will save your butt, it's a primary skill set most don't get to train in. Ask Edgehill how well wall of edge works after taking hits for a few minutes and then being reminded to use wall of edge. Once he went to that defensive skill, I couldn't put a blade on him.
 

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Wall of edge will save your butt, it's a primary skill set most don't get to train in. Ask Edgehill how well wall of edge works after taking hits for a few minutes and then being reminded to use wall of edge. Once he went to that defensive skill, I couldn't put a blade on him.
That’s a lesson I won’t forget.

And the Sypderco Street Bowie that Caleb mentioned is the knife I always recommend to this question. With the prevision that you should get the Panther sheath for it.
 

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Wall of edge will save your butt, it's a primary skill set most don't get to train in. Ask Edgehill how well wall of edge works after taking hits for a few minutes and then being reminded to use wall of edge. Once he went to that defensive skill, I couldn't put a blade on him.
You also used me as the defender at a course and I was able to fend off all approaches of increasing frequency using the Wall of Edge. Like edgehill, its not a skill I'll ever forget! 🤠
 

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You also used me as the defender at a course and I was able to fend off all approaches of increasing frequency using the Wall of Edge. Like edgehill, its not a skill I'll ever forget! 🤠
I remember that, have the vid of you fending me off here:
2:45, first student using wall of edge against me
3:12, you're up ;)
Great job BH.
 

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One last note about tactical knives. Any knife can be a tactical knife. The tactical part is between your ears, not in your hands. Knowing your weapon and feeling comfortable with it is the most important thing.

Learning hand to hand techniques from Brownie and Avaganis have helped me move up in my non gun skills. I also routinely review James Keating's YouTube videos. There are also a number of old Fairbain fighting videos you can find, which are good reminders.

With the right mindset, anything from a simple wooden dowel to a ink pen to a kitchen knife can be tactical. As Brownie says, the mind is the limiting factor in a fight.

That said, I like certain brands because I know the quality is good and will stand up in a fight. I have found I don’t generally like stainless steel in a blade because it can be tougher to sharpen. I prefer fixed blades but a Kershaw or Sypderco folder will generally be a great knife.

If you ever meet me in person, you can guarantee that I will have at least two knives tucked away somewhere and sometimes three.

I’m not afraid to spend a lot of money on a knife that I know will stand up in a fight, including buying a custom knife from Greg Covington. Brownie has a video of a Covington that was made immediately after mine was made where he takes the knife through its paces, so I know what mine can do.

But here are the knives I always suggest to new knife people who want to carry a knife for more than slicing apples or letters.

Fixed Blades
Sypderco Street Bowie
ESEE 4 or 5
Cold Steel Recon Tanto
Cold Steel Laredo (if you’re looking to get into long blades)

Folders
Kershaw Blur
Sypderco (just about any non serrated knife of theirs)

Neck Knife
SOG Snarl
Ka-Bar TDI

Also, I’ve never been disappointed with anything I’ve seen by Ontario. One of my current rotation knives is the Ontario OKC Curve with a Panther sheath.

Hello, my name is Edgehill and I am a knife addict.
 
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