Florida Concealed Carry banner

1 - 20 of 22 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
15 Posts
Discussion Starter #1 (Edited)
Newbie, I don’t expect to find ammo deals now or in the near future, but I was wondering if there are/were decent 9mm hollow points under 40cents/rd. Would like to get something that I can carry and shoot a little at the range with the FMJ.
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
26,033 Posts
Most suppliers stocks are really low and prices are of course up because of demand. TagertSportsUSA has free shipping when they have stock. You can also try AmmoSeek.com but be careful of shipping charges of some of the vendors listed.

When you can afford to be choosy, I recommend you carry what LEAs issue, which I'm told is most commonly Federal HST or Winchester Ranger T, or Speer Gold Dot.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,280 Posts
It’s all pretty expensive right now. If it was me, I’d just buy a couple of boxes of std. pressure Federal HSTs in 124 gr. and practice with Federal 124 gr. fmjs, saving the HSTs to carry. Once the pandemic is over, you should be able to find some better deals on hollow points, although for practice ammo I’d stick with fmj unless the cost doesn’t matter to you.

You will need to fire enough rounds of your hp carry ammo through your pistol to verify it will feed and function smoothly. Don’t make the mistake of assuming it will do so. You need to know for sure.
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
26,033 Posts
^^^^
This! Perhaps you knew this from your military days but NEVER depend on any firearm/ammo combination for your defense until you've verified to your satisfaction that it will be reliable on the street!
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
26,033 Posts
Will do, thanks
I just checked and although slightly higher priced than the $25/50 rounds I bought it for last year, TargetSportsUSA has 50 round boxes or cases of Federal HST in many weights in stock (147 gr HST is my carry ammo) for $39/box or $799.80 a case (free shipping on a case). I would recommend shooting ~200-250 rounds of the ammo you intend to carry through your carry weapon(s) to be reasonably sure of reliability when you need it. YMMV!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,491 Posts
Don’t forget, the militaries worldwide, have been killing people for centuries with ball ammo, it works just fine also.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
7,595 Posts
Don’t forget, the militaries worldwide, have been killing people for centuries with ball ammo, it works just fine also.
But our purpose is not to kill, our purpose is to make the bad guy stop what they are doing as quickly as possible. Ball may be somewhat effective at killing if you have time to wait for them to die, but I wouldn't count on it for defensive use unless I had absolutely no other choice.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
15 Posts
Discussion Starter #9
Will do, thanks
I just checked and although slightly higher priced than the $25/50 rounds I bought it for last year, TargetSportsUSA has 50 round boxes or cases of Federal HST in many weights in stock (147 gr HST is my carry ammo) for $39/box or $799.80 a case (free shipping on a case). I would recommend shooting ~200-250 rounds of the ammo you intend to carry through your carry weapon(s) to be reasonably sure of reliability when you need it. YMMV!
Good to know, I wouldn’t have thought to trial so many.
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
26,033 Posts
But our purpose is not to kill, our purpose is to make the bad guy stop what they are doing as quickly as possible. Ball may be somewhat effective at killing if you have time to wait for them to die, but I wouldn't count on it for defensive use unless I had absolutely no other choice.
This x1,000! Self-defense shoots are to stop a threat, even LEO shoots! Shoot the threat till the threat changes shape or catches fire and the threat may die as a result, but that's not why they got shot.
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
26,033 Posts
Good to know, I wouldn’t have thought to trial so many.
It's a judgment call. If you get through a few boxes with absolutely no malfunctions, you may decide you've seen enough. For what it's worth, I've never had a failure with HST or RangerT in any of my EDC guns (SIG P229s an Springfield 1911). Again, YMMV.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,491 Posts
But our purpose is not to kill, our purpose is to make the bad guy stop what they are doing as quickly as possible. Ball may be somewhat effective at killing if you have time to wait for them to die, but I wouldn't count on it for defensive use unless I had absolutely no other choice.
Well if you don’t have hollow points, I guess you don’t have another choice, well you could not carry. I don’t think your supposed to shoot someone with a hollow point & wait 3 days to call an ambulance either. Just saying, but NOT an expert.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,941 Posts
Good to know, I wouldn’t have thought to trial so many.
In my experience, Speer Gold Dot works in just about anything.
Also, keep in mind that hollow-points need to reach a certain velocity (at impact) in order to reliably open-up the expansion petals.
So, if you have a carry gun with a shorter barrel, be sure to select a round that can get up to velocity quickly.

And unfortunately, don't be too quick to believe what you might read on the box.
For practically any popular ammo, there will be someone on YouTube who has tested it for you.

Once you start getting into the 3.5" to 4" barrels, (all things considered), the issue of hollow-points not opening up due to lack of velocity starts to become rare.

FWIW: I selected Speer Gold Dot #23617 (same as #53617) for use in ALL of my Glocks (G-26, G-19, & G-17), with the G-26 having the smallest barrel at 3.43".
Those rounds are 9mm, 124 grain, with "+P" overpressure.

Comments anyone? (Other than Glocks being so pretty, of course.) :)
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
5,980 Posts
I just checked and although slightly higher priced than the $25/50 rounds I bought it for last year, TargetSportsUSA has 50 round boxes or cases of Federal HST in many weights in stock (147 gr HST is my carry ammo) for $39/box or $799.80 a case (free shipping on a case). I would recommend shooting ~200-250 rounds of the ammo you intend to carry through your carry weapon(s) to be reasonably sure of reliability when you need it. YMMV!

The case price isn’t that much higher than it was prebinge.
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
26,033 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,941 Posts
If you want to save long term start reloading, I like Hornday critical duty it meets the FBI standards.
At the pre-Corona price of around $0.17 per round (9mm) you'd have to shoot OFTEN to rack up any savings, especially if you include your time and labor.
Plus, I personally don't think it's a good idea to reload / manufacture your own personal protection ammo.
For one, you can't hope to have the same quality control measures as the big manufacturers, and for another, I can almost hear the Prosecuting Attorney now..... if it ever came to that.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,342 Posts
I lean toward the theory; practice with cheap 124 gr ball ammo, usually under $10 box of 50 before runs on ammo. Then verify and carry Winchester White Box 115 gr HP 9mm. I carry Hornady Low Recoil 9mm, because my wife can handle it if I go down and she runs out of Hornady .38 Special Low Recoil.

Now, are the WWB 115 9mm HPs or the Hornady LR 9mm, the latest, greatest, FBI approved, YouTube Tested Greatest On Earth and Nearspace rounds? No. Will a bad guy be able to tell the difference if my wife and I are forced to shoot him, highly unlikely.

Geoff
Who has gained at least some wisdom along with the mileage.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,874 Posts
I like to test out any new EDC, or carry ammo by shooting it with a hot and dirty firearm. If it will feed, fire,and eject under those circumstances it should be good under any situation.
 
1 - 20 of 22 Posts
Top