Help with 2nd gun choice
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Hi Daytona
I own the PF9 in hard chrome. I've taken it to the range twice and have about 175 rounds of 115 and 123 range ammo and another 15 rounds of Federal Hydro Shok defense ammo thru the gun. It just goes bang. No problems at all to date. It is very small. I pocket carry it with a spare mag in my other pocket. I can't tell I'm carrying it. The sights are on the small side but doable. It is more accurate than I am but does best as a point and shoot gun. Multi taps are a breeze. It is much more accurate than my PT145 but it is a compromise gun. A bigger gun would probably be better as a target and defense gun but this small gun sure is nice to carry. The DAO trigger is nice but not as nice as the $700 Kahr's. I love this little gun and carry it very comfortably. It doesn't show at all in an iwb holster. The recoil is better than the P3AT, less snappy. There is a little less push than my XD 45 but a little more snap. To me, it is an easy range gun you could put a lot of rounds thru per day.
For the money, I'm delighted. I also like that it's a 9 in lieu of a .380. I wish it carried more rounds but life's a compromise.
I hope this is helpful.
Franklin
I own the PF9 in hard chrome. I've taken it to the range twice and have about 175 rounds of 115 and 123 range ammo and another 15 rounds of Federal Hydro Shok defense ammo thru the gun. It just goes bang. No problems at all to date. It is very small. I pocket carry it with a spare mag in my other pocket. I can't tell I'm carrying it. The sights are on the small side but doable. It is more accurate than I am but does best as a point and shoot gun. Multi taps are a breeze. It is much more accurate than my PT145 but it is a compromise gun. A bigger gun would probably be better as a target and defense gun but this small gun sure is nice to carry. The DAO trigger is nice but not as nice as the $700 Kahr's. I love this little gun and carry it very comfortably. It doesn't show at all in an iwb holster. The recoil is better than the P3AT, less snappy. There is a little less push than my XD 45 but a little more snap. To me, it is an easy range gun you could put a lot of rounds thru per day.
For the money, I'm delighted. I also like that it's a 9 in lieu of a .380. I wish it carried more rounds but life's a compromise.
I hope this is helpful.
Franklin
Yeah that was a sweet shooting little gun but it sure throws the brass into the next county. :rolf
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Love it. BUT I had to send it back to the factory because of mag ejecting issues and jamming approx once every clip. The good news: I got it back just shy of two weeks and it has been flawless since. It's always with me. Pocket carry, smart carry, IWB, and OWB. I trust if I do my part, it will do its part.
Good luck. :drinks
-Chris
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A little late but my 2cents anyway. I am on my 2nd pf9 (traded the first after 6 months and 1000 rds and kicked myself for doing it so I bought another.) I currently have over 1200 rds in this one now and have never had a problem. I learned to polish the feedramp in the first one so I dont have the 200 rd break-in period to contend with. Like all have said it is very easy to carry. I get lazy sometimes if im just out running an errand and I wont even use a holster, just throw it in my pocket and go. Then I only have to worry about lint from my pocket.......John
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You are welcome daytona!
I forgot, I have the hard chrome model. I paid $320 plus background and taxes. Once dirty, one of my magazines has to be pulled out of the gun when removing the mag (easy but not right). The other falls out on command.
I still love my gun and I carry it daily. My XD 45 is getting lonely.
Best regards
Franklin
A week with my Kel-Tec PF-9
Like you, daytona, I was looking for a small gun that I could carry more easily than my Berettas. The Kel-Tec PF-9 is a great little pistol, with the power of 9mm and the size of a small .380. I first looked at the 9mm PF-11, but the PF-9 is lighter, thinner, and overall feels better in my hand.
It's not a range gun, and it's DAO, but it fits comfortably in an inexpensive #4 Uncle Mike's pocket holster and slides right into my front pants pocket. The magazine is single stack (which helps keep it thin), so you get 8 rounds (7+1) in all. It handles well and takes my ball ammo (Federal, Fiocchi) and Speer GDHP without any misfeeds or misfires. (It fires +P ammo, but Kel-Tec doesn't recommend that for continuous use.) You get one magazine with your purchase, so plan on ordering one more from Kel-Tec. You get an amazing gun, I think, for just $300 bucks.
Like you, daytona, I was looking for a small gun that I could carry more easily than my Berettas. The Kel-Tec PF-9 is a great little pistol, with the power of 9mm and the size of a small .380. I first looked at the 9mm PF-11, but the PF-9 is lighter, thinner, and overall feels better in my hand.
It's not a range gun, and it's DAO, but it fits comfortably in an inexpensive #4 Uncle Mike's pocket holster and slides right into my front pants pocket. The magazine is single stack (which helps keep it thin), so you get 8 rounds (7+1) in all. It handles well and takes my ball ammo (Federal, Fiocchi) and Speer GDHP without any misfeeds or misfires. (It fires +P ammo, but Kel-Tec doesn't recommend that for continuous use.) You get one magazine with your purchase, so plan on ordering one more from Kel-Tec. You get an amazing gun, I think, for just $300 bucks.
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Morning to you!
If you can find a shop that has bought guns, pull the trigger of both guns. The trigger pull on the PF9 is a shorter and much easier pull. The PF9 uses the trigger system of the P3AT and is much nicer to pull than the P11.
Franklin
My first post, just found this forums yesterday.
If you carry a Glock 23 then the size difference between pf9 and p11 are negligible.
I'm a t-shirt and jeans kind of guy and I don't know how you guys comfortably carry anything larger than a p11 in this state. Too hot and awkward although I do smile when I see a guy with a 1911 IWB.
I will say that the difference between my r9 and p11 are huge and only carry the p11 as my junk gun ie. if I am going near the beach/boating or something.
I do have a printing problem with the p11 in my pocket so if thats what you're goin for than pf9 is the way to go.
A better 9mm?
Or you could wait ... for the Boberg XR9:
http://bobergengineering.com/
["Basically, the XR9 is a pocket pistol with a full length barrel, having the magazine located directly under the chamber. The patent-pending feed mechanism grabs a cartridge from the magazine and delivers it straight into the chamber. This allows the chamber clearance to be significantly less, causing less energy and noise to blast out the back. With this combination, kinetic energy is maximized, and in many cases will exceed the energy produced in full-sized pistols."]
Or you could wait ... for the Boberg XR9:
http://bobergengineering.com/
["Basically, the XR9 is a pocket pistol with a full length barrel, having the magazine located directly under the chamber. The patent-pending feed mechanism grabs a cartridge from the magazine and delivers it straight into the chamber. This allows the chamber clearance to be significantly less, causing less energy and noise to blast out the back. With this combination, kinetic energy is maximized, and in many cases will exceed the energy produced in full-sized pistols."]
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Sweeeeeeettt!:ak
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IF you buy a KT PF9, be sure it has the latest barrel which seems to come pre buffed and has a wider lip at the bottom to accomodate HP ammo like 147 grn. Hydra Shok. As a side note, earlier models of the PF 9 (like mine which I love now but have replaced with the latest bbl.) had problems with FTE and FTF due to poor feed ramp shape and finish, problems with plastic mag release (now metal in latest versions) and a pin which could interfere with the hammer block causing FTFs. Also, early plastic grips sometimes showed stress cracks as do some slides (possibly from using +P ammo which customer service now says should be avoided.
I purchased mine new in March but, to my surprize, it had a production date in 2007 so check the serial number before you buy. Kel Tec will update earlier production models but the wait time is currently over two months for service (per recent complaints on KT boards).
All in all, it is a handsome, very concealable little package. It is American made and wonderfully conceived but has not always been executed well by the machines they used to make them. The latest versions, with some few exceptions, seem very reliable but earlier ones have frustrated many a potential owner. They have quite a recoil IF you aren't used to a small 9MM with very light weight and size. Limp wristing is common to new users and reports of jams and stovepipes as a result are pretty common though no fault of the little "pocket cannons." Poor finish and fit of some earlier examples can be worked out but require lots of patience and you should thoroughly test one of these before using it as a primary EDC.
JMHO, colored by real world experience with ser number R27XX. I believe the current , latest production crop is RHXX.:drinks
I purchased mine new in March but, to my surprize, it had a production date in 2007 so check the serial number before you buy. Kel Tec will update earlier production models but the wait time is currently over two months for service (per recent complaints on KT boards).
All in all, it is a handsome, very concealable little package. It is American made and wonderfully conceived but has not always been executed well by the machines they used to make them. The latest versions, with some few exceptions, seem very reliable but earlier ones have frustrated many a potential owner. They have quite a recoil IF you aren't used to a small 9MM with very light weight and size. Limp wristing is common to new users and reports of jams and stovepipes as a result are pretty common though no fault of the little "pocket cannons." Poor finish and fit of some earlier examples can be worked out but require lots of patience and you should thoroughly test one of these before using it as a primary EDC.
JMHO, colored by real world experience with ser number R27XX. I believe the current , latest production crop is RHXX.:drinks
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