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Over my life there have been ‘where were you when ....’ days. Where were you when the Cuban Missile Crisis happened?; Where were you when Kennedy was shot?; Where were you when the Challenger exploded?; Where were you when the Towers fell?. Today our ‘Where you moment is “Where were you when our freedom of speech was, not lost, but taken, from us? I will remember where I was, and how profoundly sad I was.
 

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This is bad stuff. It’s big business again, they can’t say that they are afraid of liability if something they publish incites violence because they are protected. Section 230 immunity basically means that for purposes of liability they can’t be treated as either the publisher or the speaker of third-party content if they pass it along so to speak. Some folks from the more liberal side want to characterize it as a public service but it’s clearly not. It’s restraint of speech buy those who are not governed by the constitution, in other words, big business.

It’s about money. That’s all these corporate hoodlums believe in, it’s about their advertisers slacking off. It’s not a political stance or judgment as to what is right or wrong, it’s about money. The constitution and the bill of rights does not apply to private business. They can trick you into confessing to a crime. Private business does not have the constraints that law-enforcement for instance does. We don’t have the constitutional protections from them that we do from our government.

Everything follows the stock market. Big tobacco, when friends of mine started getting big verdicts against them, didn’t flinch, they just diversified and bought up a large portion of the food industry. Keeping a check on big business is like trying to contain mercury, it’s just too slippery.

Maybe this will present a business opportunity for Trump as you said, Brian. People will try to label this as the “conscience of the community“ by shutting folks down, but it’s just about MONEY. Twitter cut the president’s throat not because of morality but because of more money.
 

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The last thing I want to see is mob rule ,city's burning ect, but now that big tec and the left have united to void the will of 1/2 of the people it's time to duck and cover or retreat to your safe room if you have one and smell smoke. I will be guarding the fence line and reloading if need be.
 

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Believe me,as a Jew, I DID study what Hitler did only to be able to stop the next one.
I personally take credit for Joe's win...also the 2 senate seats in GA!🤣
You didn't study hard enough. You laugh while you vote for people who suck up to one of the biggest Jew haters in the world and you curse a man who has embraced the Jewish people over and over again. Please stop lying to us. We all see right through you.
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A-ha!!! Gotcha.
So.... you admit that there was voter fraud in the Georgia runoff election?
Namely, that you voted in it. :unsure:

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Fish, as you know, I never get worked up over how somebody else feels about an election.
I make my own assessments, and my view are my own (unless, as in this case, they just happen to be shared by 72 million other voters!) But your politics don't really matter to me all that much. I don't agree or understand the basis for a lot of left-wing / left-leaning thinking, but (like it or not), the sentiments of a single individual are statistically insignificant, whether that's you or me.
You will never understand left wing thinking as it is a mental disorder only understood by trained, forensic psychiatrists. These people walk America daily, against what made their country free and gave them the life they live today. They vote for other people to control their way of life and even the ability to protect their own life. Just to be clear, I paid a lot of money to converse with a well known forensic psychiatrist about the illness of liberalism. It is self destructive and it exists.
 
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This is only "MY" opinion and nothing more.
It is "NOT" about $$$$$$
It is about "POWER" and "CONTROL:"
The New World Order aka One World organization of billionaires from all over this planet is now owning the Democratic Party and the elected Politicians are made to do the bidding of the N/W.O. puppet called Nancy P. ( her Billionaire husband is a N.W.O. member and probably a leader)
They are intimated by the fact that a hell of a lot of dissenting, Non-conforming people in politics and high offices committed suicide, Died in accidents or totally just disappeared all through the Clinton and Biden administrations.
Just think about Creepy Joe picking the LAUGHING HYENA as a running mate. (((THEY ACTUALLY HATE EACH OTHER AND SHE viciously LIED ABOUT HIM during the democrat debate circus. That should tell everybody that some one is pulling the Biden Strings.
Have any of you actually listened to the Media lies about Trump and the Protest? He may have called for a peaceful event but he never told anyone to be armed or break into the building. Now they call it an armed terrorist attack on America led by Donald Trump. And they keep saying this lie over & over drumming it into the SHEEPS HEADS.
They went after the N.R.A. and did a great job of getting the members pi$$ed off enough to stop paying dues or supporting the organization.
They will go after the gun owning citizen of America and will more then likely disarm enough people to not be a problem anymore for them.
This New World Order aka One World has been around and infiltrating for 70 PLUS years and back in the fifty's Senator Joseph McCarthy tried to do something about the threat and was shot down at every turn.
HE WAS RIGHT AND ON TO WHAT WAS GOING ON
Creepy Joe and his Laughing hyena are only puppets and will pass to Nasty Nancy the orders from the N.W.O. probably through Nasty Nancy's billionaire husband.
Dis arming America is important because they know that they will have problems controlling an armed population. .
Like I said at the beginning, This is only what I think and at 78 years old should not really care, I love my country and hate to see it gone to hell
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The more people you hush the bigger your lie must be.
Telling (forcing) someone to shut up is the best way to calm them. LOL
 

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For a bunch of democrats who just "won" an election, you think they would be a lot less nervous about it. Why the rush to silence the opposition?
Every leftist regime in the history of the world, as their first act after gaining control, has moved to eliminate freedom of the press, and replace it with a propaganda machine under their direct control. Every, single one. Without exception.

Why should this one be any different?
 

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The propaganda machine has been in place. Our education system and MSM does it with a smile and tells it's people how smart they are for thinking their way.
Teaching them socialism and big .gov is the right way and they are looking forward to the trip into equality bliss.
 

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The N.W.O. socialist Bloomberg & Soros already owned a lot of Media and have for a very long time. What is not owned is controlled . Try watching a late night talk show, Most of what is supposed to be A comedy show, The News, Meet the Press, Any newspaper in America. CNN - NBC - FOX - ABC (((DUH!)))
Look at the 45% of college professors admitting to being socialists and Marxist Americans.
Brainwashing the children of America has been going on for many years and so subtlle that nobody noticed until now. Some still don't notice what they did.
Does anyone on this Forum really think that the N.W.O. owned democrats really care about gun safety?????
It is about turning all Americans into SHEEP ((((UN-ARMED SHEEP))) for easy control.
These Billionaires already have way more power with money to buy or do anything they want and are getting bored and need a purpose to make them happy and that is RULING THE PLANET.
America is the largest holdout because of the 2nd. amendment and if you think that will stop their agenda. YOU ARE WRONG.
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Every leftist regime in the history of the world, as their first act after gaining control, has moved to eliminate freedom of the press, and replace it with a propaganda machine under their direct control. Every, single one. Without exception.

Why should this one be any different?
This is NOT a freedom of the press issue. Also please read EVERY word in Amend #1
All these sites (apps) are private property and can control who posts on them. Just like THIS forum.
 

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This is hilarious and sad all at once. Lack of foresight and insane egos(we're saving the world from themselves guys! Nevermind their free will!) are bringing us to a precipice.

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This is NOT a freedom of the press issue. Also please read EVERY word in Amend #1
All these sites (apps) are private property and can control who posts on them. Just like THIS forum.
By that logic, the phone company is private property, and can eavesdrop on every conversation, and only allow the ones they agree with to continue making calls on their networks.
 

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So I have a point of view that might not be too popular but here it goes.

The government if I’m not mistaken has a limit on “monopolies” or “monopoly power” like they did years ago with Microsoft when the government decided that they were “too big” and had too much control of the software empire and they were declared a “monopoly power”.

Now I have no idea if this is apples to apples or something else but it seems to me that if you are a publicly recognized company that has the power to reach and influence the entire civilized world, much like Microsoft did, then why aren’t social media giants like Facebook, Twitter, Etc... charged with and forced to stop their one sided BS of controling info that influences a majority of the world? Or at least have some kind of oversight to prevent public abuse?

I’m all for capitalism and free enterprise but if you have the ability to influence the entire free world, then there has to be some kind of checks and balances on you at that point. At that point you are a danger or a very potential danger and I don’t see that as a good thing.

I can see the first amendment protections applying to government while allowing small meaningless owned forms like this one or the one I personally own to do as they please and censor or manipulate as there really is no big danger to society. But when your website speaks to the majority of the civilized world for you to control, influence, suppress, distort the truth, and lie, then I don’t think they should have that right. When you become that big, some kind of checks and balances have to come into play IMHO.

I mentioned this earlier tonight in a different thread in a joking manner but I just realized the symbolism between the two here. I’ll say it again, James Bond in Tomorrow Never Dies. What was the premise of that movie? A media mogule influencing the world, except China, with his own twisted truth for his own agenda. Sound familiar?

Should privately owned companies like Facebook, Twitter, etc.. have the ability to silence, lie, control, influence, suppress, distort the truth, and silence everyone that disagrees with their viewpoint when they have the ability to reach out to the entire civilized world? I think not.

Didn’t the Nazi party move to control the media and tell the country only what they wanted them to hear. Didn’t the USSR do the same thing?

Should a privately owned company be permitted to influence the entire free world with their own agenda while suppressing the views of anyone that opposes them? Should there be some kind of check and balance enforced upon them at that point?

Thoughts?

Flame away.

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This is NOT a freedom of the press issue. Also please read EVERY word in Amend #1
All these sites (apps) are private property and can control who posts on them. Just like THIS forum.
You'd be the first one to start screaming bloody murder if all the major social media sites started silencing liberal voices in the manner that they currently stifle conservative ones.

Like it or not, social media has become the defacto public square of our society and it's time they be regulated like public utilities. FPL is a private company, but they cannot deny you electrical service on the basis of your political ideology; why should Facebook or Twitter be allowed to do so?

If our laws can compel a baker to perform a service for someone he doesn't want to serve, they can be crafted to prohibit Big Tech from censoring the marketplace of ideas.
 

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Thank you for reinforcing my ideology on this. I was somewhat stuggling to explain this and I think your definition hits it head on.

And I think the baker example is spot on.

Thanks. (y)
 
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