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With the last threat focused course this past weekend, new students may want to weigh in on what they observed using this skill.
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I started learning how to shoot 44 years ago. 13 in the service. All of it 'sighted'.

"The mind is the limiting factor "

When you had us shoot half hip off hand and I neatly drilled the target center mass in two straight lines, one up and then down, as fast as I could squeeze the trigger.. It made me realize how much I was getting in my own way.
 

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I first wrote something similar to this on February 22, 2004 on the internet that also included the long rifle Quick Kill technique as shown to me that was referenced above in the army manual. I registered the copyrighted material and the document is filed with the Library of Congress, Copyright Office in Washington, D.C.

I've carried this knowledge of the Handgun or Pistol Quick Kill [ QK ] Shooting Technique © since 1981 but had never put it into print until 2004.

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Always a great read and thanks for reminding us old hats and the newbies this thread was here! (y)(y)
 

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It’s important to keep bringing the TFP information forward so that the next couple of generations of CCW’ers can at least be aware that there is much to learn beyond the FSP way of shooting. 👍

As far as my personal feelings about having been showed the way to the TFP skills; you already know that very well. As noted in my AAR after that first class with you; owning the skills is a true life-changing epiphany!
 

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It occurs to me that the branded name of this technique could certainly raise eyebrows. Most of have heard the legal advice to NOT use the phrase, "shoot to kill." If we are in a situation where our lives or grave bodily harm are at stake, then we may use (lethal) force to STOP the attack. We "shoot to stop."

How might it play in court, if you are defending yourself legally but you have been identified as someone who learned and practices "Quick Kill ®" technique?

If I dare.... :)

I think "Quick Stop" would be "legally safer" as a publicized and learned self-defense technique.

Alternatively, "El-Stoppo-el-attacko." 🤪

Give me a sec to don my asbestos suit!
 
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It occurs to me that the branded name of this technique could certainly raise eyebrows. Most of have heard the legal advice to NOT use the phrase, "shoot to kill." If we are in a situation where our lives or grave bodily harm are at stake, then we may use (lethal) force to STOP the attack. We "shoot to stop."

How might it play in court, if you are defending yourself legally but you have been identified as someone who learned and practices "Quick Kill ®" technique?

If I dare.... :)

I don't remember whether I used my sights or not. There's historical data that suggest many who are forced to defend themselves with a handgun who have never been shown anything but sights use can't remember seeing their sights "in the moment". I may have used the sights, I may not have, I don't remember like a lot of sighted shooter don't remember.

"Could you have used that QK pistol skill in this instance"? I could have, I don't remember, anymore than I might remember using the sights.


I think "Quick Stop" would be "legally safer" as a publicized and learned self-defense technique.

Alternatively, "El-Stoppo-el-attacko." 🤪

Give me a sec to don my asbestos suit!
We've covered this ground before here and elsewhere, you're entitled to your opinion. OOoops,. too late for you, you've been given the QK pistol. You better stop carrying altogether, you could be questioned about what skill you used because you've been trained in it. They'll be able to access your internet presence, you're F*d now apparently ;)

In my world, it's never going to be an issue, as in 28 years of criminal cases, I've never heard sa prosecutor or defense atty introduce evidence that the person attended any of the FSP training courses/schools. YMMV, of course
 

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OOoops,. too late for you, you've been given the QK pistol. You better stop carrying altogether, you could be questioned about what skill you used because you've been trained in it.
Have we met? :unsure: ;) :ROFLMAO:
 

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We've covered this ground before here and elsewhere, you're entitled to your opinion. OOoops,. too late for you, you've been given the QK pistol. You better stop carrying altogether, you could be questioned about what skill you used because you've been trained in it. They'll be able to access your internet presence, you're F*d now apparently ;)
Quick Kill?!?? I thought he said "Quick Gill," so I showed up with my fishing rod ready to learn how to kick bass!
 

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Quick Kill?!?? I thought he said "Quick Gill," so I showed up with my fishing rod ready to learn how to kick bass!
Perjury, there's video. YOU'RE F'D :eek:
 
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