[FrankWSweet]

I am trying to decide what make of automatic pistol to buy. Until today. I was leaning towards Glock, either .40 or .45. But I attended my first IDPA meet today, and one of the participants had serious problems with his 9mm Glock. His weapon would jam after almost every other shot. Most were double-feeds but a few were misfeeds. He had a horrible time with it. A few of the other participants also had Glocks but they were not having any problems.

Are frequent double-feeds a problem specific to Glocks? What would cause this problem? Is it something that a gunsmith or armorer could fix?

 

[Rvrctyrngr]

No, it's not normal in the least, Frank. My guess is he's 'gamed' his gun, and the malfunctions are the result.

That, or his mags are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy worn out.

The only time I've anything CLOSE to that happening was a guy shooting a G19 (9mm) with G23 mags (.40).

 

[Steve48]

My guess is he's 'gamed' his gun, and the malfunctions are the result.

Not sure what you mean here. Explain, please?

 

[Cthulhu]

Not sure what you mean here. Explain, please?

Well, this isn't related to the feed problems mentioned, but I've seen Glock folks swap out their springs for lighter ones, and have seen numerous light primer strikes because of this.

Incidentally, a lot of the Glock shooters at my local IDPA club have moved on to the M&P pistols over the past year or so.

-JT

 

[AdamCop84]

Yeah sounds like that guns been tampered with. Maybe like others have said the mag springs are wore out. I've personally never heard of a glock double feeding and have seen many torture tests done to them. My buddy who is a cop in pasco carries police issued Glock 40 and has never had a problem with his.

 

[dudester]

Mine works 100% of the time.

 

[Rvrctyrngr]

Not sure what you mean here. Explain, please?

What AdamCop said. 'Enhanced' the gun to make it 'faster'. I don't mess with my Glocks other than sights and the connector, so I really can't expound further.

Mags would be the prime suspect, but I've got some that are pushing 20 years old with the original springs that are still 100%.

 

[Steve48]

Thanks, guys.

 

[FrankWSweet]

Definitely sounds like like the odd one out. I absolutely hate Glocks... but their reliability is superior.

May I ask why you hate Glocks? I am leaning towards buying one, now that it seems that the one I saw yesterday was an oddball.

 

[Mountain Dew Man]

Over Built

Yeah, that gun was way over built.

I have owned a few Glocks and the only time one jammed, other than operator error was I overbuilt the darn thing.
Once I gutted all the crap outta it, it ran like a dream.

Glocks are good guns; not to mention, they are "easy" to work on or find a Glock Armorer around w/o issue.

Good luck!

 

[FrankWSweet]

The biggest thing I don't like is the grip and the feel of Glocks in my hand; it just doesn't sit right with me. Grip is very important (for obvious reasons) and this was more of a problem (for me) than I could overlook.

Thanks. I worry about that also. I suspect that grip "feel" is a double-stack versus single-stack thing. Before I make the decision, I am going to try and find a range that rents pistols, so I can shoot several brands of polymer-frame automatics. Gun Gallery in Jax (I am in Palm Coast) was recommended. Thanks again.

 

[MPDC66]

Thanks. I worry about that also. I suspect that grip "feel" is a double-stack versus single-stack thing. Before I make the decision, I am going to try and find a range that rents pistols, so I can shoot several brands of polymer-frame automatics. Gun Gallery in Jax (I am in Palm Coast) was recommended. Thanks again.

IMHO (and your feeling may differ) the glock 17 I have is a very good pistol. No reliability issues BUT having held the Springfield XD9 full sized, I have to say it is a very "right" feeling grip for me. I am seriously considering adding one to my array. The XDs are also double stack and I think that adds to the good feel, not detracts from it. We are all different.

 

[airhead]

Single stack/double stack is not my issue with glocks.

They are the AK's of the pistol world. Very dependable, but butt ugly. (IMHO).

The grip angle on them is wrong to me. I grab one, point it downrange and have to bring the front end around to where it should be, not to where I think I am pointing. My other pistols do not have this problem.

 

[Mac45]

Glock firearms have proven themselves to be very reliable. For many people, the grip angle is not as comfortable as that on other weapons. Many shooters, especially those that have extensive experience with 1911's, Sigs and Berettas, find the grip angle adversly affects pointability and comfort. You should handle several different platforms and choose the one that is best for you.

 

[Franklin]

IMHO (and your feeling may differ) the glock 17 I have is a very good pistol. No reliability issues BUT having held the Springfield XD9 full sized, I have to say it is a very "right" feeling grip for me. I am seriously considering adding one to my array. The XDs are also double stack and I think that adds to the good feel, not detracts from it. We are all different.

+1
I Too really like the XD. I have the .45 service. I rented the Glock 30, XD 45 and S&W M&P 45 and shot them side by side.
I liked the M&P's sights the best. The Glock was soft shooting and very accurate. I did shoot good groups but just a little high. I thought maybe it was because of the heavily cut backstrap and I was squeezing the gun? Don't really know? The XD (for me) was the most comfortable, accurate and soft shooting. Oh course, if the gun is very reliable, it just comes down to which gun works best for you. I definitely would give the XD a try. But if you go and research, the Glock has a HUGE following and police must use them for a reason.
Good luck finding just the right gun. The hunt is half the fun!
Best
Franklin

 

[airhead]

Just a thought on that double feed issue. If I was him, I'd check that the mag is really a 9mm mag or that the 'fingers' at the top of the mag had not been damaged.

Did he try a different mag?

They drop those mags in rapid reload type drills? Very easy to damage the fingers to the point they don't reliably feed after that.

That or has he modified the spring keeper or the springs?

It is very uncommon for glocks to have feed issues that I have seen, but race guns are like F1 cars = lots of maintenance.

 

[Devilfrog]

The biggest thing I don't like is the grip and the feel of Glocks in my hand; it just doesn't sit right with me. Grip is very important (for obvious reasons) and this was more of a problem (for me) than I could overlook.

Glocks have all passive safety features. I'm most accustomed to 1911 pistols with grip and manual safeties. I chose an XD for my semi-auto because of the grip safety.

The aesthetics of the Glock are all lost on me, especially the profile. Obviously, function is more important but I want a pretty pistol...it ain't called eye-candy for nothing.

I'm not a big fan of the Block either, same reasons. My SA XDM-9 and XD9 SC fit like a glove. :thumsup

 

[djkj6]

i like glocks for their reliability, but as the caliber increases i seem to lean towards a bit beefier guns (that absorb the recoil better). i carry a SA TRP right now, and that thing shoots like a dream! but for work i usually grab a 19 or 26, just due to the fact i can check my worries at the door, i KNOW this gun will go bang if my "booger hook is on the bag switch"! lol

i know they are more $$$, but i have 100% converted to the 1911 is best for accurate and defensive shooting scenarios...you just can't beat a properly setup .45 IMHO...istols

 

[JamesKatz]

I never have any problems with my G19

 

[ECHOONE]

NYPD was noted for making numerous complaints of there Glocks doublefeeding and having extractor problems!