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In this thread http://floridaconcealedcarry.com/Fo...-muzzle-pressed-against-your-back-from-behind we discussed what others would do with a gun put in their back during a robbery.
This thread will discuss the "Draw against the drop" [ few have ever seen this performed in any training environ let alone been privy to the mechanics and even fewer who have been allowed to practice this skill ].
There are only 4 people authorized to train others in the skill tested in the real world [ myself being one of the four ] and advanced as a viable option by the originator. He knows it works in the real world.
The main requirements to perform this successfully and should not be attempted unless these criteria/circumstances are met.
1. Being able to use both hands simultaneously to perform different tasks
2. A draw stroke that is well practiced and takes 1 second or less to get your first shots into the perp
3. Being capable of reaching the offending weapon without moving anything but an outstretched arm.
Someone has brought a deadly weapon to bear on your person in close enough proximity to meet one of the requirements/criteria above.
We could attempt a disarm of the offending weapon as has been discussed often enough on this forum in some manner [ there are several variations on this theme that may work depending on our skills level in this area ], but there's also this option of the "draw against the drop" which has worked in the real world as well. It's not for the faint of heart and requires superior gun handling/draw speed but there are people who have draw speed in sufficient quantity out there who could use this option in lieu of attempting a disarm.
The following narrative will take into account the perp is holding the weapon in his/her right hand. Simply mirror the narrative for a left handed perp.
With your left hand, you move/push the offending weapon off body from the outside so that the perps arm is now cross body as well as your own [ the perps hand is moved to near or a 10 O clock body position as if he were reaching to get into the front left slash pocket of their pants.
Your left hand has gained [ and maintains ] brief control of the wrist/hand of the perps with your hand ending up near a 2 O clock position as if you were starting to cross body gain access to your front right pocket.
At the same time as the above, you access your firearm from it's holster on the right side and place either the barrel/slide or your wrist/start of your forearm on your left forearm about mid way between your wrist and elbow and fire into the perp, at the same time slightly turning/twisting your upper body to the right which helps keep control of their weapon by extending your left arm and locking the elbow [ thus becoming stronger at thwarting their possible attempt to turn/move their weapon back onto your person .
By either rotating the barrel/slide across your left forearm, shots can be zippered up from about belly height to upper chest immediately. Remember that the above will all take place in one second, perhaps a few thousandths more. If you don't/can't draw your firearm and get the first shot off in that time or less, the risk increases exponentially that it's not going to be successful.
It may be hard to visualize the above, and one caveat warning should be mentioned-- Your firearm will be muzzling your own non dominant forearm briefly to get the gun or your wrist/lower forearm in proper position.
It's a viable option that's worked in the real world IF you have the speed of draw, can use both arms to do different tasks simultaneously and the offending weapon is close enough to reach without moving.
Sounds complicated in narrative and may be problematic to visualize the above, but it doesn't take any time to demo it in training and it's certainly another option for those who are strength challenged vs their opponent and would be better served by being guncentric in this instance as long as they have their speed of draw in sufficient quantity and enough "ugly" [ attitude ] to call on to make the move and end the threat.
I imagine this thread has the potential to get real interesting in the responses. Some members have seen this demonstrated in the past in my courses, and would be a perfect example of why airsofts are great for this type of skills practice.
This thread will discuss the "Draw against the drop" [ few have ever seen this performed in any training environ let alone been privy to the mechanics and even fewer who have been allowed to practice this skill ].
There are only 4 people authorized to train others in the skill tested in the real world [ myself being one of the four ] and advanced as a viable option by the originator. He knows it works in the real world.
The main requirements to perform this successfully and should not be attempted unless these criteria/circumstances are met.
1. Being able to use both hands simultaneously to perform different tasks
2. A draw stroke that is well practiced and takes 1 second or less to get your first shots into the perp
3. Being capable of reaching the offending weapon without moving anything but an outstretched arm.
Someone has brought a deadly weapon to bear on your person in close enough proximity to meet one of the requirements/criteria above.
We could attempt a disarm of the offending weapon as has been discussed often enough on this forum in some manner [ there are several variations on this theme that may work depending on our skills level in this area ], but there's also this option of the "draw against the drop" which has worked in the real world as well. It's not for the faint of heart and requires superior gun handling/draw speed but there are people who have draw speed in sufficient quantity out there who could use this option in lieu of attempting a disarm.
The following narrative will take into account the perp is holding the weapon in his/her right hand. Simply mirror the narrative for a left handed perp.
With your left hand, you move/push the offending weapon off body from the outside so that the perps arm is now cross body as well as your own [ the perps hand is moved to near or a 10 O clock body position as if he were reaching to get into the front left slash pocket of their pants.
Your left hand has gained [ and maintains ] brief control of the wrist/hand of the perps with your hand ending up near a 2 O clock position as if you were starting to cross body gain access to your front right pocket.
At the same time as the above, you access your firearm from it's holster on the right side and place either the barrel/slide or your wrist/start of your forearm on your left forearm about mid way between your wrist and elbow and fire into the perp, at the same time slightly turning/twisting your upper body to the right which helps keep control of their weapon by extending your left arm and locking the elbow [ thus becoming stronger at thwarting their possible attempt to turn/move their weapon back onto your person .
By either rotating the barrel/slide across your left forearm, shots can be zippered up from about belly height to upper chest immediately. Remember that the above will all take place in one second, perhaps a few thousandths more. If you don't/can't draw your firearm and get the first shot off in that time or less, the risk increases exponentially that it's not going to be successful.
It may be hard to visualize the above, and one caveat warning should be mentioned-- Your firearm will be muzzling your own non dominant forearm briefly to get the gun or your wrist/lower forearm in proper position.
It's a viable option that's worked in the real world IF you have the speed of draw, can use both arms to do different tasks simultaneously and the offending weapon is close enough to reach without moving.
Sounds complicated in narrative and may be problematic to visualize the above, but it doesn't take any time to demo it in training and it's certainly another option for those who are strength challenged vs their opponent and would be better served by being guncentric in this instance as long as they have their speed of draw in sufficient quantity and enough "ugly" [ attitude ] to call on to make the move and end the threat.
I imagine this thread has the potential to get real interesting in the responses. Some members have seen this demonstrated in the past in my courses, and would be a perfect example of why airsofts are great for this type of skills practice.
