Dade County Fair & Expo: No Weapons.

Why yes, I am a genuine member of Florida Carry.

Feel free to move this to a new thread if continuing this one is troublesome. I merely wanted to illustrate just how long this issue has been a point of contention with no apparent progress made in the Florida Legislature.

To answer your question, some places will have to be dragged kicking and screaming to come into compliance with the law. They will ban guns as long as they think they can, even when they know they don't have the authority to do so.

Some citizens are getting tired of it, and a few patriots won't mind becoming test cases. I disagree with your use of the word "deviant" as a negative thing in this context. Perhaps a better use would be its non-conformist, maverick meaning.

Instead of saying "pretty please" and being turned away at the gate, someone will lawfully conceal and get in, then let them know they will exercise their lawful rights by carrying openly. The ball is then in the venue's court - to leave the person alone, or give an invitation to sue. It's that simple.

BeerHunter said:

Wow, a question in a thread that's been dormant for over six and a half years? Really? Your question probably would have been better placed in a more recent thread regarding the shenanigans in the latest legislative session on the latest Open Carry bills in the Florida House and Senate.

I will say that concealing to gain entry into a venue presumes they would be denied entry if they carried openly and in order for the authorities of that venue to deny entry, they would have to have legal authority to do so. Otherwise, why would a carrier of a concealed firearm need to change their mode of carrying after inside? If the law allows open carry there and they're denied entry, it would seem that would then become enough of a basis for taking up the issue in the courts and much less risk to the person becoming the test case. It would also avoid the very negative image for lawful carriers that would likely result from being intentionally deviant by concealing to gain entry and then openly carrying inside.

Are you a member of Florida Carry, the group lobbying for our 2A rights?

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au712 said:

I think we overcomplicate it by assuming there is some sort of malice in regards to being asked to leave if caught carrying. Example: We are literally going into someone's house and then feeling violated when asked to leave because they asked us to. Even if the person is just renting, they can politely tell us to leqve. Maybe MDCFair&Expo doesn't OWN the space, but they sure are tenants, so-to-speak. Last time I checked, The Fair has been occupying the same "public space" for years. Up to the point where you are "caught" and asked to leave, you have exercised your constitutional right to carry. At that point, it is your constitutional right to carry it right on out the exit and continue to carry elsewhere, in peace. There is NO violation of constitutional rights........ just respect. I believe wisdom is better than knowledge. This type of issue goes beyond Law School. We should be careful to avoid overreaching. Example: Why is saying bomb on a plane bad? Doesn't one have freedom of speech? No... you just shouldn't.

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Welcome to FCC from Palm Beach County, au712! 🍻

Since this was your very first post to FCC without first introducing yourself as described here, IN AN SEVEN YEAR OLD THREAD, please now take the time to properly post you're own Introduction to FCC, letting forum members get to know you a little, particularly with regard to our inherent right to keep and bear arms. You can do that by going to the Introduce Yourself section of the Welcome to Florida Concealed Carry section and starting your very own introduction thread. Then you'll find that lots of other FCC members will know to chime in to properly welcome you to the forum, and will be more responsive in answering your questions you may have!

In case you weren't aware, you can stay current on pertinent Florida Statutes regarding the "justified use of force" and all of Florida firearms laws by going right to the source using these links for Chapter 776 - Justifiable Use of Force and Chapter 790 - Weapons and Firearms, respectively. I'd also like to suggest you obtain your own copy of FLORIDA FIREARMS Law, Use & Ownership by Jon Gutmacher!

If you're a veteran, take a look at our Military Service Thread where you'll find many of us there, too!

Finally, I highly recommend you read this thread to understand how to navigate FCC to get the most out of your experience. One particular item that's caught many veteran FCC members off guard is the "Recommended Reading" at the bottom of each page, which MAY contain quite old threads of inactive conversations lacking up-to-date information or context. So beware of the date of the last post (just to the right of the post number) in any thread you come across so you don't mistakenly think every post is recent and start responding to very old posts/threads that been dormant for quite some time, sometimes for many years.

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