Concealed Carry without license - HB-543 Introduced

Wsr said:

In effect it is a permission slip if you have to complete it to gain permission to exercise the “right”

Yes a license is a permission slip lol

If zealot fits me then quisling fits every “im all for the 2A but….” Person on here

It’s either a right or a privilege

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Rights, it's your right to be a zealot, of that I have no doubt. Rights have restrictions as has been established. So, you enjoy a privilege when you carry concealed having had to obtain a permit. That is unless you open carry everywhere, violating infringement laws and decided you didn't need a permit for anything, that would be being granted a privilege, and of course, your rights come before the laws so you violate them.

Lawless libertarians, I've known a few. Oh, wait, you say you stay within the law and have a permit to conceal carry? You're not as principled as you want people to believe. You're enjoying the privilege the state granted you. Not your 2a rights. How's that sit with you now?

Wsr said:

All I need to know is what he wrote

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How open minded of you, but apparently you know Jack about me and several other people on this forum! 🤣

BeerHunter said:

How open minded of you, but apparently you know Jack about me and several other people on this forum! 🤣

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"All" was the operative word for me as well BH. LOL

brownie said:

Rights, it's your right to be a zealot, of that I have no doubt. Rights have restrictions as has been established. So, you enjoy a privilege when you carry concealed having had to obtain a permit. That is unless you open carry everywhere, violating infringement laws and decided you didn't need a permit for anything, that would be being granted a privilege, and of course, your rights come before the laws so you violate them.

Lawless libertarians, I've known a few. Oh, wait, you say you stay within the law and have a permit to conceal carry? You're not as principled as you want people to believe.

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I follow the law (as much as possible ) because I’m a good citizen, I also work and advocate to lessen infringements and stop new infringements

you follow the law (as much as possible I assume because principles) you also advocate for infringements and defend existing infringements…that attitude is what got us the mess of gun laws that have slowly been chipped away at for the last 20 or so years ….so thank you and your welcome

BeerHunter said:

How open minded of you, but apparently you know Jack about me and several other people on this forum! 🤣

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I didn’t say anything about you because I didn’t see you post your opinion of the matter
I thought one of us was misunderstanding DED
others I just go by what they write

Wsr said:

I follow the law (as much as possible ) because I’m a good citizen, I also work and advocate to lessen infringements and stop new infringements

you follow the law (as much as possible I assume because principles) you also advocate for infringements and defend existing infringements…that attitude is what got us the mess of gun laws that have slowly been chipped away at for the last 20 or so years ….so thank you and your welcome

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I've neither advocated for nor defended existing infringements. And this is the crux of the discussions like these. If someone is a zealot like yourself relative 2a, their advocating against it. Nothing could be further from the truth where I'm concerned however.

I don't advocate for or against 2a, but I understand enough to discuss infringements exist, we follow those infringements at our own peril otherwise. And I believe infringements will always exist in an advanced society as ours.

Wsr said:

All I need to know is what he wrote

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Is that right? So now you think you know what I believe based on a single paragraph?

Put a sock in it, new guy.

BeerHunter said:

How open minded of you, but apparently you know Jack about me and several other people on this forum! 🤣

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That response told me more than I ever wanted to know about him…

Wsr said:

I am a zealot when it comes to our rights, that’s what is needed to undo what past generations gave away trying to be reasonable and compromise, people who go down the same route now have no excuse they know trying to placate antis and the gov is a lose for us…quislings

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Let me know when you succeed so I can get that twin 50 mounted in the bed of my truck and start advertising the tail gunner position. I do occasionally have to drive through some shaky parts of Mobile, it'd be handy to have.

Wsr said:

I didn’t say anything about you because I didn’t see you post your opinion of the matter
I thought one of us was misunderstanding DED
others I just go by what they write

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🤣 Then you obviously haven't been paying attention! My opinion of the matter has been posted here many, many times, including recent posts since you joined, is very well known by those who've been paying attention on multiple dimensions, many who've known me for quite a long time here on FCC, on other forums, and out in the wild, including training, shooting, and breaking bread together on several occasions.

Okay, I know I said that I was going to bow out, but something just occurred to me... Has FLWildMan returned once more, using yet another screen name?

Just a thought.

Denverd0n said:

By the way, there is no legal requirement for me to get any training AT ALL before I get a driver's license. None.

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I think knowing how to read is sort of a requirement for a driver's license, (which may not be considered a legal requirement) otherwise, you wouldn't be able to take the written part of the test.

deadeyedick said:

Is that right? So now you think you know what I believe based on a single paragraph?

Put a sock in it, new guy.

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Yes I do and I think I’ll still participate

brownie said:

I've neither advocated for nor defended existing infringements. And this is the crux of the discussions like these. If someone is a zealot like yourself relative 2a, their advocating against it. Nothing could be further from the truth where I'm concerned however.

I don't advocate for or against 2a, but I understand enough to discuss infringements exist, we follow those infringements at our own peril otherwise. And I believe infringements will always exist in an advanced society as ours.

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Mandatory training….yes or no ?

BeerHunter said:

🤣 Then you obviously haven't been paying attention! My opinion of the matter has been posted here many, many times, including recent posts since you joined, is very well known by those who've been paying attention on multiple dimensions, many who've known me for quite a long time here on FCC, on other forums, and out in the wild, including training, shooting, and breaking bread together on several occasions.

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First you get anally irritated thinking I have a opinion on you from reading a forum and now it’s because I don’t have a opinion from reading a forum LOL

Wsr said:

First you get anally irritated thinking I have a opinion on you from reading a forum and now it’s because I don’t have a opinion from reading a forum LOL

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🤣🤣🤣 There's only one who's apparently anally irritated here. Well aren't you special!

Wsr said:

Mandatory training….yes or no ?

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You're stuck on training like so many others. Doesn't have to be training. A basic competency test, abso Fing lutely.

Mandatory competency test.....yes or no?

I spelled out the competency requirement I wouldn't mind being instituted several pages ago.

Do I need to release the pink unicorns again?

The Return of the Dudley- Fluffer part IV:

AFJuvat said:

Do I need to release the pink unicorns again?

The Return of the Dudley- Fluffer part IV:

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He's stuck on the training mantra, it doesn't have to be a training requirement at all. It only needs to be a gun handling competency test as I spelled out earlier. It would go a long way in making the general gun owning public safer and thus making people around them a little bit safer.

Notice he ignored the remark that as he's jumped through hoops to get his ticket, he's not exercising his 2a "right", he's exercising the "privilege" the state granted him. Bet that put a bad taste in his mouth as a zealot.