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Say you have a Class "G" Armed Security Guard License and a FL CCW License and you are working with private security. The person wishes to sit in a bar. Legal or not? Dave
 

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If you're on the clock, then your CWFL does not even come into play. Are we talking about a uniformed security officer with an openly carried sidearm or a 'D' licensee working in plainclothes on a special executive protection-type detail?

It says this on the 'G' license application (emphasis added)...

A Class "C" or Class "CC" licensee 21 years of age or older who has also been issued a Class "G" license may carry, in the performance of her or his duties, a concealed firearm only. The authority to carry a concealed firearm shall be valid throughout the state, in any location, while performing services within the scope of the license.
Since that only references 'C' licensees, I'm really not sure if that applies to a 'D' licensee, or if it would allow you to carry in a bar while on duty. I think you need a ruling from the Div. of Licensing on this one.
 

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It seem's very vague? So, if you are hired by an individual for private scurity in plain clothes with a concealed weapon, you may carry anywhere? Bar's , Airports, Courtrooms, tc...???? Dave
 

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If you're on the clock, then your CWFL does not even come into play. Are we talking about a uniformed security officer with an openly carried sidearm or a 'D' licensee working in plainclothes on a special executive protection-type detail?

It says this on the 'G' license application (emphasis added)...



Since that only references 'C' licensees, I'm really not sure if that applies to a 'D' licensee, or if it would allow you to carry in a bar while on duty. I think you need a ruling from the Div. of Licensing on this one.
(4) A Class "C" or Class "CC" licensee 21 years of age or older who has also been issued a
Class "G" license may carry, in the performance of her or his duties, a concealed firearm. A Class
"D" licensee 21 years of age or older who has also been issued a Class "G" license may carry a
concealed firearm in the performance of her or his duties under the conditions specified in s.
493.6305(2).
The Class "G" license shall clearly indicate such authority. The authority of any such
licensee to carry a concealed firearm shall be valid throughout the state, in any location, while location, while performing services within the scope of the license.


493.6305 Uniforms, required wear; exceptions.--
(2) Class "D" licensees may perform duties regulated under this chapter in nonuniform status on
a limited special assignment basis, and only when duty circumstances or special requirements of
the client necessitate such dress.



performing services within the scope of the license.
 

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What if you dress is "plain clothes" ? Dave

(4) A Class "C" or Class "CC" licensee 21 years of age or older who has also been issued a
Class "G" license may carry, in the performance of her or his duties, a concealed firearm. A Class
"D" licensee 21 years of age or older who has also been issued a Class "G" license may carry a
concealed firearm in the performance of her or his duties under the conditions specified in s.
493.6305(2).
The Class "G" license shall clearly indicate such authority. The authority of any such
licensee to carry a concealed firearm shall be valid throughout the state, in any location, while location, while performing services within the scope of the license.


493.6305 Uniforms, required wear; exceptions.--
(2) Class "D" licensees may perform duties regulated under this chapter in nonuniform status on
a limited special assignment basis, and only when duty circumstances or special requirements of
the client necessitate such dress.



performing services within the scope of the license.
 

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It seem's very vague? So, if you are hired by an individual for private scurity in plain clothes with a concealed weapon, you may carry anywhere? Bar's , Airports, Courtrooms, tc...???? Dave
You cannot provide freelance security/protective services for hire with a 'D' or 'C' license; you must be working under the auspices of an 'A' or 'B' agency license in order to legally perform the duties of a 'D' or 'C' licensee.

I would imagine that airports and other locations that fall under federal jurisdiction are still a no-go without LEO credentials.

Seems to me same thing as a cop on duty. IF you have you G license and you are 'on the clock'.
I wouldn't be too sure about that without a (preferably written) opinion from the Div. of Licensing; one definitely doesn't have the same authority as an LEO, regardless of what combination of licenses one possesses.
 

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As a "D" & "G" holder and recent graduate at Pat Thomas Law Enforcement Academy I can state unequivocally that Deadeyedick is absolutely correct.

It is really important to pay special attention to the details of your licenses, as the DOA inspectors have absolutely no sense of humor what so ever. Unfortunately in the not so distant past a few "shady" security service providers within Florida gave the whole dang private security industry a black eye that will not soon be forgotten by the government or the (reputable) industry. :banghead2


You cannot provide freelance security/protective services for hire with a 'D' or 'C' license; you must be working under the auspices of an 'A' or 'B' agency license in order to legally perform the duties of a 'D' or 'C' licensee.

I would imagine that airports and other locations that fall under federal jurisdiction are still a no-go without LEO credentials.



I wouldn't be too sure about that without a (preferably written) opinion from the Div. of Licensing; one definitely doesn't have the same authority as an LEO, regardless of what combination of licenses one possesses.
 

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You cannot provide freelance security/protective services for hire with a 'D' or 'C' license; you must be working under the auspices of an 'A' or 'B' agency license in order to legally perform the duties of a 'D' or 'C' licensee.

I would imagine that airports and other locations that fall under federal jurisdiction are still a no-go without LEO credentials.



I wouldn't be too sure about that without a (preferably written) opinion from the Div. of Licensing; one definitely doesn't have the same authority as an LEO, regardless of what combination of licenses one possesses.
You have to work for a Class "b" agency IF your not working for an exclusive employer as an employee like target.


493.6301 Classes of licenses.--
A Class "D" licensee shall own or be an employee of a Class "B" security agency or branch
office. This does not include those individuals who are exempt under s. 493.6102(4) but who
possess a Class "D" license solely for the purpose of holding a Class "G" license.


And 493.6102(4) says
493.6102 Inapplicability of this chapter.--This chapter shall not apply to:
(4) Any unarmed individual engaged in security services who is employed exclusively to work on
the premises of her or his employer, or in connection with the business of her or his employer,
when there exists an employer-employee relationship.
 

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You have to work for a Class "b" agency IF your not working for an exclusive employer as an employee like target.


493.6301 Classes of licenses.--
A Class "D" licensee shall own or be an employee of a Class "B" security agency or branch
office. This does not include those individuals who are exempt under s. 493.6102(4) but who
possess a Class "D" license solely for the purpose of holding a Class "G" license.


And 493.6102(4) says
493.6102 Inapplicability of this chapter.--This chapter shall not apply to:
(4) Any unarmed individual engaged in security services who is employed exclusively to work on
the premises of her or his employer, or in connection with the business of her or his employer,
when there exists an employer-employee relationship.
You are correct bigdog, but you must be an employee, as the statute indicates, and not merely a contractor. If you receive a W-2 at the end of the year, you're good to go; if you get a 1099 then you're not an employee.

The state doesn't make it easy for us, do they? :doh
 

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Thanks for the clairifications. Anybody know why you can only carry a .380, .38 or a .357 cal? Dave
 

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Thanks for the clairifications. Anybody know why you can only carry a .380, .38 or a .357 cal? Dave
Antiquated laws...heck, until recently, security officers were only allowed to carry .38 Specials and hollowpoints were verbotten; the other calibers were reserved for P.I.s
 

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These are very strict standards, and the DOACS will come down very hard if you disobey and get caught. Very unforgiving.
 

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Life was so much easier before all the regulation and the state found it could make a ton of money from requiring licenses to stand a post.
 
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