[james47]

I own a bar, beer and wine only. I wish I were comfortable with the law, on one hand you can carry 'in your place of business' on the other hand you cannot carry in a place that primarily sells for 'on site consumption' I have a carry permit, anybody know how to interpret that contradiction?
THANKS

 

[FL2011]

That is an interesting question actually.....

If no one here knows for sure I would suggest contacting Jon H. Gutmacher and asking his opinion. I'm not sure if his book covers that specfic sort of scenario but on the website I believe there is a contact form you could use to submit the question to him. http://www.floridafirearmslaw.com/

 

[capngeo]

To the best of my knowledge, there is NO PERMIT REQUIRED for a business owner (or his designated employees) to carry on the business property

 

[NkmG19]

As a business owner you could ask your local LEO but best an an attorney. Seems to me that it should not be a problem as it's your place of business but that's just me speculating. Please let us know what you find out.

 

[flccnp]

As a business owner you could ask your local LEO but best an an attorney. Seems to me that it should not be a problem as it's your place of business but that's just me speculating. Please let us know what you find out.

Maybe go suspenders and belt? Ask an attorney first and they say yes then ask the local police in writing?

I would phrase it along the lines of:

"My attorney has advised me that as an owner of a bar under Florida Statute xxx, I have the right to arm myself while working at my bar.

"I would like to confirm that my local Law Enforcement also reads the law in the same way."

If you get it in writing it would be very difficult for them to successfully prosecute you in the future.

When you give them the Florida Statute they will know you're knowledgeable in the law and will be less likely to blow you off.

 

[Rvrctyrngr]

790.06 (Concealed Carry statute) and 790.053 (Open Carry) restrictions do not apply in your own place of business under FSS 790.25 (Lawful Posession/Use).

FSS 790.25

 

[Keithmj]

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Your Bar...It's up to you. :drinks

 

[jfl]

790.06 (Concealed Carry statute) and 790.053 (Open Carry) restrictions do not apply in your own place of business under FSS 790.25 (Lawful Posession/Use).

FSS 790.25

What he said !!!

 

[Keithmj]

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I like plain English..Some people don't like all that legal trash..:dancingbanana

 

[Endangered Species]

The intent, I assume, is to keep guns out of the hands of people getting drunk. As the bar owner, that's not you.

There was a case in town here over the summer where the bartender shot a patron who threatened him with a nail gun. I don't know if the bartender was the owner, but there was nothing in the news story about him being arrested for having a gun in a bar.

 

[fridaddy]

Rvrctyrngr gets the gold star to take home to mommy for correct legal analysis of our ridiculous statutes by a non-lawyer.

 

[brboyer]

790.06 (Concealed Carry statute) and 790.053 (Open Carry) restrictions do not apply in your own place of business under FSS 790.25 (Lawful Posession/Use).

FSS 790.25

Just because I was not satisfied with the last thread about carrying at work....and I did not see you weigh in on that one.....:deadhorse

Would you care to define "your own place of business" ?

 

[Rvrctyrngr]

Just because I was not satisfied with the last thread about carrying at work....and I did not see you weigh in on that one.....:deadhorse

Would you care to define "your own place of business" ?

No, B.

My opinion matters nada. I'll go with what the courts have decided on the subject...that's what counts, right?

 

[brboyer]

No, B.

My opinion matters nada. I'll go with what the courts have decided on the subject...that's what counts, right?

Chicken.....but yes, everyone has an : censored and an opinion and we all know they both stink.

 

[Rvrctyrngr]

Chicken.....but yes, everyone has an : censored and an opinion and we all know they both stink.

You Betcha! Like I said...the courts have decided that it's where you work...good enough for me.

 

[brboyer]

You Betcha! Like I said...the courts have decided that it's where you work...good enough for me.

Me too.

 

[Mac45]

As the holder of a Florida Liquor License, I would suggest that you consult an attorney. While I don't see any problem under firearms law with being armed on your own premises, I am not sure whether there are any licensing regulations that prohibit it or not.

 

[brboyer]

As the holder of a Florida Liquor License, I would suggest that you consult an attorney. While I don't see any problem under firearms law with being armed on your own premises, I am not sure whether there are any licensing regulations that prohibit it or not.

Licensing regulations may not supersede Florida Statutes.

 

[Mac45]

Licensing regulations may not supersede Florida Statutes.

But, it is a real pain to pay your bills when you are fighting a license suspension and you're closed down. An ounce of prevention can be worth a pound of cure. I think somebody famous said that.

As I said, I do not know of any licensing regulation that would cover an armed owner in his bar, but then I don't deal with liquor licenses very much.