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Mrs. BeerHunter and I are attending a show at Hard Rock and I can't seem to find anything on their screening protocols of late. I f o understand the thread from last year, but was curious if anyone has been to a show there lately. :dunno
 

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I don't know their rules there. As Ive only been to the restaurant and I did carry that day.
I don't pay much attention to signs. I carry 20/24/7. Worst they can do is ask you to leave.
But as a general thing anywhere alcohol is served is always going to be somewhat questionable.
Make a phone call and ask. Cant hurt.
 

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I have not been since last year, or since that thread was made - so im not sure if it's the same or they've increased security, etc.

Let us know, if possible! I'll be there in December for a show. Finally dusting off this account, and checking FCC regularly again, as ive been slacking.
 

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Went for a show Saturday. The casino is no issue and pretty much as described in that thread from last year. However, if you're attending a show in The Hard Rock Live auditorium, they had full-on security with metal detectors everyone has to walk through, keys, loose change, and cell phone in the basket. They didn't even like my flashlight (Surefire clone with uneven bezel) and they about had a stroke that I had a small 1 1/2 in. blade pocket knife, and I had to return both items to my car.

Regardless of it being a complete "weapon/gun free zone," I don't think I'd ever attend another concert there again anyway. The place is set up like a sports arena and unless your seats are at floor level (can't see sheet with everyone standing) or all the way in the stadium seats in the "end zone" opposite the stage (which are as far away as one could be from the stage), then you end up looking 30-60 deg to one side to see the stage. I was uncomfortable the whole concert. I much prefer concert venues with theatrical type seating arrangements. No more Hard Rock Live for me! :thumbsdwn
 

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The security is no different than most concerts I've seen. But what sucked to me for the two I saw there were first as you say on the floor where I sat were just simple fold up metal chairs. Quite uncomfortable. And second since the venue is in the casino complex both shows were the shortest concerts I've ever seen. Seems they wanted to get you in and out as quick as possible so you'd be tempted to go gamble some more money away.
I saw Yes there and the show was barely more than an hour long? :(
Seen Yes a half dozen times in my life and some shows were almost three hours long. But most were around two hours give or take. The Yes show at the HRC was wayyyy too short.
 

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I've carried at Hard Rock in Tampa and Ft Lauderdale, but they do set up metal detectors, wands, bag inspections and empty your pockets at many if not all of their shows & concerts. When I know the purpose of my visit will include a show, I leave it in the car and carry a broken (folding) knife. They've never caught it, as the sensitivity of their metal detectors is not set as good as the TSA airport screening. If they ever found the folder, no big deal.
 

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The security is no different than most concerts I've seen. But what sucked to me for the two I saw there were first as you say on the floor where I sat were just simple fold up metal chairs. Quite uncomfortable. And second since the venue is in the casino complex both shows were the shortest concerts I've ever seen. Seems they wanted to get you in and out as quick as possible so you'd be tempted to go gamble some more money away.
I saw Yes there and the show was barely more than an hour long? :(
Seen Yes a half dozen times in my life and some shows were almost three hours long. But most were around two hours give or take. The Yes show at the HRC was wayyyy too short.
While also a Yes fan. They are also the only group Ive ever walked out on. It was back in 1973 at Curtis Hixon Hall in Tampa. They were so loud in the 1st 5 rows my head was splitting. ..............all Ric Wakefields fault that night. Literally ear shattering key boards that night.
Glad you enjoyed the shortened show just the same.
 

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I've carried at Hard Rock in Tampa and Ft Lauderdale, but they do set up metal detectors, wands, bag inspections and empty your pockets at many if not all of their shows & concerts. When I know the purpose of my visit will include a show, I leave it in the car and carry a broken (folding) knife. They've never caught it, as the sensitivity of their metal detectors is not set as good as the TSA airport screening. If they ever found the folder, no big deal.
They detected my folder and directed me to return it to the car but I still had my wooden kubaton. So with the "wall of edge" was still available, among other "things." :grin
 
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What your neglecting to point out is the fact that Florida state law does not apply at any of the Seminole Tribe owned casinos including the Hard Rock (or any Native American casino in the U.S.) because the building and property are considered to be sovereign land and under the authority of the Seminole Tribe of Florida as part of its land (reservation). All criminal offenses are governed solely by the Seminole Tribe and if you are caught with any type of weapon on your person you WILL BE ARRESTED by the Seminole Tribal Police for illegal and criminal possession of a weapon and tried NOT in the Florida courts but in the Seminole Tribal court, the penalties are much more stiffer on Native American sovereign land the penalties in the State of Florida.
 

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This being a 5 year old thread aside, I believe BH was talking about Hard Rock Live at Universal Studios. IIRC, the last function I attended there, probably 12-15 years ago, utilized metal detectors.


ETA….re-read thread, maybe it was the casino. I can’t remember what I ate for lunch. This was eons ago in old-man memory years 😬 🤣
 

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What your neglecting to point out is the fact that Florida state law does not apply at any of the Seminole Tribe owned casinos including the Hard Rock (or any Native American casino in the U.S.) because the building and property are considered to be sovereign land and under the authority of the Seminole Tribe of Florida as part of its land (reservation). All criminal offenses are governed solely by the Seminole Tribe and if you are caught with any type of weapon on your person you WILL BE ARRESTED by the Seminole Tribal Police for illegal and criminal possession of a weapon and tried NOT in the Florida courts but in the Seminole Tribal court, the penalties are much more stiffer on Native American sovereign land the penalties in the State of Florida.
i have never heard of what you speak. Oh, if we only had a lawyer in the house🦈🦈😢😢
 

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I was at the Universal Hard Rock last week, you have to go through security to get into City Walk. FYI, I was clean as I went through the magnetometers, but it went off (belt buckle?), they waived me on without a second thought. Guess I looked harmless.
 

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What your neglecting to point out is the fact that Florida state law does not apply at any of the Seminole Tribe owned casinos including the Hard Rock (or any Native American casino in the U.S.) because the building and property are considered to be sovereign land and under the authority of the Seminole Tribe of Florida as part of its land (reservation). All criminal offenses are governed solely by the Seminole Tribe and if you are caught with any type of weapon on your person you WILL BE ARRESTED by the Seminole Tribal Police for illegal and criminal possession of a weapon and tried NOT in the Florida courts but in the Seminole Tribal court, the penalties are much more stiffer on Native American sovereign land the penalties in the State of Florida.
Welcome to FCC from Palm Beach County, bigjohnnyv! 🍻

Pretty bold statements about what "WILL" happen when nothing of the sort did in fact happen and considering that you've only just successfully joined FCC and made your first post in a 5 year old thread no less! So please now take the time to actually educate yourself on how FCC really works (see last paragraph below) and then please post you're own proper Introduction Thread to FCC letting forum members get to know you more, of course without getting too personal while you also get to know us more! You can do that by going to the Introduce Yourself section of The Front Office and start your very own introduction thread. Then you'll find that lots of other FCC members will know to chime in to properly welcome you to the forum, and will be more responsive in answering your questions!

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The 2016 Florida Statutes Title XIX Public Business Chapter 285
Indian Reservations and Affairs 285.16
Civil and criminal jurisdiction; Indian reservation.—
(1) The State of Florida hereby assumes jurisdiction over criminal offenses committed by or against Indians or other persons within Indian reservations and over civil causes of actions between Indians or other persons or to which Indians or other persons are parties rising within Indian reservations
(2) The civil and criminal laws of Florida shall obtain on all Indian reservations in this state and shall be enforced in the same manner as elsewhere throughout the state. History.—ss. 1, 2, ch. 61-252.
Note: From the Statute above it looks to Handgunlaw.us that all Florida statutes apply to Reservations and this would apply to the carry laws in Florida.
 

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I'd be interested in revisiting this topic. Is there anyone who has solid, updated info as to what could happen if you tried to legally conceal carry and were found to be carrying in the casino or restaurants? Or out where all the stores are? I was always under the assumption that if somehow they found out they could ask you to leave but there were no legal/criminal ramifications.
 

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What you need is one of those "GHOST" guns the Democrat "EXPERTS are always talking about.
Or, better yet, Just print out a plastic gun on your 3D printer and you can go past the detectors with no problem.
The Democrat "EXPERTS" hate those undetectable plastic guns.
Ronnie

PS: Of course you can not have bullets in the plastic gun due to they will be detected.
And we all know that a ghost gun can be seen and detected. (They are "NOT" really ghosts)
 
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