[fuzzy03cls]

I didn't see these listed in 7.90. Can I?

Opinions?

 

[Glock23-4-Me]

yes bank, no post office. The post office is a federal place that you can not carry that is why it is not specifically listed. But the florida statute does say something about not carrying where prohibited by federal law or something to that effect.

 

[Glock22]

Bank yes. Post office NO. In fact every post office I have been to has a nice reminder plastered on there door. It is in the statute as well...I will look it up and post back...

 

[Glock22]

Just thought about something.....Technically since the government owns 51% in some banks those could be considered federal buildings now LOL!!! :rolf:rolf

That's my joke of the day....mkkkkk!

 

[Glock23-4-Me]

here you go thought I would help you out Glock22

http://www.capdefnet.org/fdprc/contents/shared_files/titles/18_usc_930.htm


18 USC Sec. 930
01/26/98

TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 44 - FIREARMS

HEADING

Sec. 930. Possession of firearms and dangerous weapons in Federal facilities
​

STATUTE

(a) Except as provided in subsection (d), whoever knowingly possesses or causes to be present a firearm or other dangerous weapon in a Federal facility (other than a Federal court facility), or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both.
(b) Whoever, with intent that a firearm or other dangerous weapon be used in the commission of a crime, knowingly possesses or causes to be present such firearm or dangerous weapon in a Federal facility, or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.
(c) A person who kills or attempts to kill any person in the course of a violation of subsection (a) or (b), or in the course of an attack on a Federal facility involving the use of a firearm or other dangerous weapon, shall be punished as provided in sections 1111, 1112, and 1113.
(d) Subsection (a) shall not apply to -

(1) the lawful performance of official duties by an officer, agent, or employee of the United States, a State, or a political subdivision thereof, who is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of any violation of law;

(2) the possession of a firearm or other dangerous weapon by a Federal official or a member of the Armed Forces if such possession is authorized by law; or

(3) the lawful carrying of firearms or other dangerous weapons in a Federal facility incident to hunting or other lawful purposes.
​

(e)(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), whoever knowingly possesses or causes to be present a firearm in a Federal court facility, or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

(e)(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to conduct which is described in paragraph (1) or (2) of subsection (d).
(f) Nothing in this section limits the power of a court of the United States to punish for contempt or to promulgate rules or orders regulating, restricting, or prohibiting the possession of weapons within any building housing such court or any of its proceedings, or upon any grounds appurtenant to such building.
(g) As used in this section:

(1) The term ''Federal facility'' means a building or part thereof owned or leased by the Federal Government, where Federal employees are regularly present for the purpose of performing their official duties.

(2) The term ''dangerous weapon'' means a weapon, device, instrument, material, or substance, animate or inanimate, that is used for, or is readily capable of, causing death or serious bodily injury, except that such term does not include a pocket knife with a blade of less than 2 1/2 inches in length.

(3) The term ''Federal court facility'' means the courtroom, judges' chambers, witness rooms, jury deliberation rooms, attorney conference rooms, prisoner holding cells, offices of the court clerks, the United States attorney, and the United States marshal, probation and parole offices, and adjoining corridors of any court of the United States.
​

(h) Notice of the provisions of subsections (a) and (b) shall be posted conspicuously at each public entrance to each Federal facility, and notice of subsection (e) shall be posted conspicuously at each public entrance to each Federal court facility, and no person shall be convicted of an offense under subsection (a) or (e) with respect to a Federal facility if such notice is not so posted at such facility, unless such person had actual notice of subsection (a) or (e), as the case may be.
​

 

[fuzzy03cls]

Ok, There are no signs in the 2 post offices I use. I thought the statute referred to state gov not federal.

That sign posted above tells it.

I'm not in a post office much anyway.

Thanks

 

[Glock23-4-Me]

There is not one at the post office I use either and that could be a good argument but I am like you, considering the frequency in which I visit them, I will stand outside and let my wife take the letter in.

 

[T.S.]

Just playing " Devil's Advocate " here ......

If I have a Concealed Weapon License, issued by the State of Florida, am I not carrying a concealed weapon as a " lawful purpose"? opcorn

here you go thought I would help you out Glock22

http://www.capdefnet.org/fdprc/contents/shared_files/titles/18_usc_930.htm


18 USC Sec. 930
01/26/98

TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 44 - FIREARMS

HEADING

Sec. 930. Possession of firearms and dangerous weapons in Federal facilities
​

STATUTE

(a) Except as provided in subsection (d), whoever knowingly possesses or causes to be present a firearm or other dangerous weapon in a Federal facility (other than a Federal court facility), or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both.
(b) Whoever, with intent that a firearm or other dangerous weapon be used in the commission of a crime, knowingly possesses or causes to be present such firearm or dangerous weapon in a Federal facility, or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.
(c) A person who kills or attempts to kill any person in the course of a violation of subsection (a) or (b), or in the course of an attack on a Federal facility involving the use of a firearm or other dangerous weapon, shall be punished as provided in sections 1111, 1112, and 1113.
(d) Subsection (a) shall not apply to -

(1) the lawful performance of official duties by an officer, agent, or employee of the United States, a State, or a political subdivision thereof, who is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of any violation of law;

(2) the possession of a firearm or other dangerous weapon by a Federal official or a member of the Armed Forces if such possession is authorized by law; or

(3) the lawful carrying of firearms or other dangerous weapons in a Federal facility incident to hunting or other lawful purposes.
​

(e)(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), whoever knowingly possesses or causes to be present a firearm in a Federal court facility, or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

(e)(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to conduct which is described in paragraph (1) or (2) of subsection (d).
(f) Nothing in this section limits the power of a court of the United States to punish for contempt or to promulgate rules or orders regulating, restricting, or prohibiting the possession of weapons within any building housing such court or any of its proceedings, or upon any grounds appurtenant to such building.
(g) As used in this section:

(1) The term ''Federal facility'' means a building or part thereof owned or leased by the Federal Government, where Federal employees are regularly present for the purpose of performing their official duties.

(2) The term ''dangerous weapon'' means a weapon, device, instrument, material, or substance, animate or inanimate, that is used for, or is readily capable of, causing death or serious bodily injury, except that such term does not include a pocket knife with a blade of less than 2 1/2 inches in length.

(3) The term ''Federal court facility'' means the courtroom, judges' chambers, witness rooms, jury deliberation rooms, attorney conference rooms, prisoner holding cells, offices of the court clerks, the United States attorney, and the United States marshal, probation and parole offices, and adjoining corridors of any court of the United States.
​

(h) Notice of the provisions of subsections (a) and (b) shall be posted conspicuously at each public entrance to each Federal facility, and notice of subsection (e) shall be posted conspicuously at each public entrance to each Federal court facility, and no person shall be convicted of an offense under subsection (a) or (e) with respect to a Federal facility if such notice is not so posted at such facility, unless such person had actual notice of subsection (a) or (e), as the case may be.
​

 

[Glock23-4-Me]

Just playing " Devil's Advocate " here ......

If I have a Concealed Weapon License, issued by the State of Florida, am I not carrying a concealed weapon as a " lawful purpose"? opcorn

I have read that same exception and wonder the same thing, but I have determined that their is only one way to test that theory. You could go into a post office and tell the post master that you have a CCWL and that you are concealling a handgun under your clothing. If he says "thats cool, so am I " and lets you walk away, then I would say your right. :rolf

 

[Glock23-4-Me]

Tampa, me and you have previously been involved in a thread where this came up as well

Notice of the provisions of subsections (a) and (b) shall be posted conspicuously at each public entrance to each Federal facility, and notice of subsection (e) shall be posted conspicuously at each public entrance to each Federal court facility, and no person shall be convicted of an offense under subsection (a) or (e) with respect to a Federal facility if such notice is not so posted at such facility, unless such person had actual notice of subsection (a) or (e), as the case may be.



My post office does not have a sign posted.

Again, only one way to test it. YOU FIRST :rolf

 

[XD-Man]

Just playing " Devil's Advocate " here ......

If I have a Concealed Weapon License, issued by the State of Florida, am I not carrying a concealed weapon as a " lawful purpose"? opcorn

That's MY question, too. If I have a legal permit, I am carrying "lawfully." Any lawyers out there?

 

[Glock23-4-Me]

That's MY question, too. If I have a legal permit, I am carrying "lawfully." Any lawyers out there?

smokin357 is a lawyer :rolf

 

[T.S.]

Tampa, me and you have previously been involved in a thread where this came up as well

Notice of the provisions of subsections (a) and (b) shall be posted conspicuously at each public entrance to each Federal facility, and notice of subsection (e) shall be posted conspicuously at each public entrance to each Federal court facility, and no person shall be convicted of an offense under subsection (a) or (e) with respect to a Federal facility if such notice is not so posted at such facility, unless such person had actual notice of subsection (a) or (e), as the case may be.



My post office does not have a sign posted.

Again, only one way to test it. YOU FIRST :rolf

All in favor of Glock23-4-Me going first, raise your hands ....

The people have spoken Glock23-4-Me, good luck!! ​

 

[Glock23-4-Me]

All in favor of Glock23-4-Me going first, raise your hands ....​

The people have spoken Glock23-4-Me, good luck!! ​

LOL I am already going to jail for using deadly force to prevent a forcible felonly :rolf:rolf:rolf

http://floridaconcealedcarry.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=2992

 

[T.S.]

LOL I am already going to jail for using deadly force to prevent a forcible felonly :rolf:rolf:rolf

http://floridaconcealedcarry.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=2992

Here ya go buddy ......

 

[fuzzy03cls]

I have carried in the post office the few times I have been there. Now I may just leave it in the car, idk, there's no security there anyway. The tellers are more concerned with their work.

 

[Rvrctyrngr]

I know the law enforcement arm of the Postal Service considers it illegal to carry in a PO and GuruGutmacher sez so, too.....Good enough for me.

 

[rokclmb]

Just thought about something.....Technically since the government owns 51% in some banks those could be considered federal buildings now LOL!!! :rolf:rolf

That's my joke of the day....mkkkkk!

So does that mean that I can't carry when I go buy a new GM vehicle also?

 

[Steve48]

Only if you're a comedian.

 

[MPDC66]

They are afraid you may go "POSTAL" so, NO CARRY!