[arcticbreeze]

Hello everyone,

I have searched the Fl Dept of Agricultures FAQs and this site and I have emailed DOA 3 weeks ago and forget calling, it is impossible right now. I have my permit already. My better half took the course, got her picture and fingerprints done but when filling out the application we are uncertain how to proceed. The question asks where were you born witch for her was Nuremberg, Germany on the US Army base. Her father was serving there. She is a natural born US citizen so the forms they say to send in the instructions she can't get because they only apply to someone who was not a citizen then became one. I am afraid they will reject when they see the answer. I know she can't be the only one so it is probably an easy answer however we really can't wait on them any longer because the 30 days will elapse from the time she got her finger prints. Is there anyone here that maybe has the same circumstances?

 

[Steve48]

What forms are they asking for? I would think that she should use the same forms as all natural born US citizens, listing her place of birth as the US Army base (by name) in Nuremberg.

 

[OrlandoDriver]

She probably has a Birth certificate written out in German, if she does you have to write the dept of state and get a birth certificate issused by the consulate.
My stepson was born on an army base in Germany same situation.

Had to do all this just so he could get his permit to drive once you get all that just have her apply just as any Red Blooded American if anything else is needed they will let you know.

 

[arcticbreeze]

What forms are they asking for? I would think that she should use the same forms as all natural born US citizens, listing her place of birth as the US Army base (by name) in Nuremberg.

This is what the application instructions say:
a Consular Report of Birth (Form FS-240)
a Certification of Report of Birth (DS-1350)
a Certificate of Naturalization (Form N-550 or N-570)
a Certificate of Citizenship (Form N-560 or N-561)

 

[Glock23-4-Me]

forgive my ignorance but does that even apply. I did not send in proof that I was a u.s. citizen. She is a u.s. citizen, always has been, always will be right?

 

[JAXjam]

Send it tomorrow and get it in line!

Glock23.... might be on to something here. Why not just submit the application, get the funds cleared, get the application in line and see if they kick it back. This would get you in queue and I would assume that they would treat your application with more attention due-to-the-fact that milestones(receipt of application, check cashing, entry into their application tracking system) have already been met. And, in the meantime, after you have submitted the application, you could work on getting the appropriate documents that you think you need.

The ARE a government organization and might be privy to other applications from US citizens that were born on other US Bases overseas. No time like the present!

 

[OrlandoDriver]

This is what the application instructions say:
a Consular Report of Birth (Form FS-240)a

Certification of Report of Birth (DS-1350) Why if you have the above

a Certificate of Naturalization (Form N-550 or N-570) She dont need that shes already an Americana
Certificate of Citizenship (Form N-560 or N-561)

And since she a citizen she definately doesnt need this.

Im sure the highlighted its whats needed.

 

[inkedott]

I agree with Glock-I was born abroad, both parents American, have a birth certificate and declaration of citizenship so she should too

 

[Glock23-4-Me]

I dont have a physical application in front of me but found the application instructions on doacs website

http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/application_instructions/Concealed%20Weapon_ApplicationInstructions.pdf

QUESTION 5
Unless you are serving overseas in the United States Armed Forces, you must currently reside in the United States (US)
AND be a US citizen or deemed a lawful permanent resident alien by Department of Homeland Security, US Citizenship
and Immigration Service (USCIS). If you are serving overseas in the US Armed Forces, please submit a copy of your
deployment documentation. If you are not a US citizen, submit documentation issued by the USCIS proving you are a permanent
legal resident alien who has resided in the state of residence (as shown on your application) for at least 90 consecutive
days prior to the date the application is submitted.
Proof of residence includes, but is not limited to:​

• Monthly utility, telephone, power, or cable bills, which show your name

and address.

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• Monthly pay stubs or other documentation from your employer, which show your name ​

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and address.

• Monthly credit statements, which show your name ​

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and address.

If you were born outside the United States and are now a U.S. Citizen, State and Federal law requires that we confirm your
citizenship status. Please send us a copy of any one of the following documents: a U.S. passport, a Consular Report of
Birth (Form FS-240), a Certification of Report of Birth (DS-1350), a Certificate of Naturalization (Form N-550 or N-570), or​

a Certificate of Citizenship (Form N-560 or N-561). These various documents are issued either by the US Department

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You have made me work for this.

as to the 1st red bolded area, she is in the U.S. and is a U.S. citizen so it should not matter

as to 2nd red bolded area

according to the U.S. citizenship and Immigration services
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/us...nnel=96719c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD

Citizenship


Most people become U.S. citizens in one of two ways:

• By birth, either within the territory of the United States or to U.S. citizen parents, or
• By Naturalization.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Territory

states

International law concerning United States territory

Like most nations, America has acquired territory by force and conquest (Latin, "to seek for"). Internationally (specifically according to the Hague conventions), United States territory can include areas occupied by and controlled by a United States army. When de facto military control is maintained and exercised, occupation (and thus possession) extends to that territory

I believe that being born on a military base you are born in the united states. Granted it may be outside the contiguous united states, but part of the us non the less. Like puerto rico for example.

It also states

If you were born outside the United States and are now a U.S citizen

she has never not been a us citizen. I would say she was a us citizen born in the united states and leave it at that.

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[JAXjam]

Get your stamps on the envelope!

 

[airhead]

Glock, fine if she was born on the base hospital and has a US birth certificate.
If she was born in the local German hospital and has a Birth Certificate in German, then she was born to US citizens, but not on US soil and would hold dual citizenship status - and would need the FS-240.

 

[Glock23-4-Me]

Glock, fine if she was born on the base hospital and has a US birth certificate.
If she was born in the local German hospital and has a Birth Certificate in German, then she was born to US citizens, but not on US soil and would hold dual citizenship status - and would need the FS-240.

I would agree that if what you pointed out were the case, you are 100% correct. In this case the OP stated "for her was Nuremberg, Germany on the US Army base"



You need to change your name sir because I don't think you are an airhead.