[racer88]

You are not allowed to carry in a hospital.
Technically, a hospital that provides mental health services. But that point is moot since all hospitals provide mental health help of some kind.

This is not true (that hospitals are automatically off-limits), and has not been made clear. It seems to be a gray area.

 

[brownie]

As @racer88 stated, my goal would be to initiate conversation well before he reached the 6ft. circle, and to have the SA to make that happen. I also like circling around the vehicle. Hoepfuly, I can hit my "panic button" on the key fob and get the horn going to see what that might do. I would not draw unless it was clear that he had some weapon or means to attack me. I just hope I'd have enough time.

But yeah, the key to this scenario I think is having enough advanced SA to start a course of action long before he reached my 6ft. inner circle.

That was the key [ tactic ] I used, gun in jacket pocket, at the appropriate time hand placed on gun. Then it was a 5 shot J frame LW, today that's been refined to an NAA 22mag PUG.

 

[Ronnie948]

If a homeless looking person or any other person, no matter who, approached me, I would do as I once did at a gas station. Pull out my gun and point it at the ground and make sure he does see that I have it at a distance asking him to stop and tell me what he wants.
If he took another step toward me, I would hit the alarm on my fob and if he still kept coming, I would probably have to shoot him.
I can not run, and I sure can not fight so I would have no other choice.
Ronnie

 

[mike1956]

I've done that too, Mike, but it's not my norm. Years ago when I worked in a fairly large city, I used to carry a book of matches with a $10 bill attached to it with a rubber band. I did that because I had this stupid idea that it would have enough mass to be able to toss it should I need to dump some cash and run in a bad situation. It sat for years in my left front pocket unused until early one evening some yutes (four of them, early 20s) chose me as their target of opportunity.

They wanted to "talk to me." I grabbed the matchbook and said words to the effect of I'd like to stay and chat but I had someplace important to be, so how about I spring for some beers and maybe we could meet up some other time. Then I tossed it about halfway between us, with us being maybe 25 feet apart. All four sets of eyes went right to that ten-spot and I got my arse out of there, down the street, and into my car while they went for the cash. I couldn't believe it - it worked!

I wouldn't expect it to work today, I'm much older and lot slower. They'd take the ten spot then run me down before I made it to the vehicle. Not bad enough to get mugged, but knowing I paid them ahead of time would just be too humiliating for me.

Four yutes fanning out are much different critters than a homeless down-and-outer. Different situations merit different responses. I was going with the one that Brownie presented. The pack gets the up-to-ass-kicker response.

 

[racer88]

This is not true (that hospitals are automatically off-limits), and has not been made clear. It seems to be a gray area.

For the nearly three years my daughter was in treatment (and spending a LOT of time at the hospital), I did not "leave it in the car."

 

[deadeyedick]

I would provoke a fight with this individual, then contact Morgan & Morgan so I could sue the hospital for failing to provide a safe environment to park in.

 

[Anduril]

I would provoke a fight with this individual, then contact Morgan & Morgan so I could sue the hospital for failing to provide a safe environment to park in.

And these days, with all the medical malpractice going on (which, by the way, far surpasses all forms of "gun violence"), you could keep Morgan & Morgan on retainer to sue the doctors too!

 

[Ronnie948]

Four yutes fanning out are much different critters than a homeless down-and-outer. Different situations merit different responses. I was going with the one that Brownie presented. The pack gets the up-to-ass-kicker response.

Mike, If it is 4 YUTES all fanned out, It means if you do not shoot first and fast, You will be a dead or extremely messed up victim because these have to be up to no good at all.
Showing you have a firearm will be no good because at least one of them will probably have one and will use it in a heartbeat.

Ronnie

PS:
Not only at a hospital, but at the mall or any dark parking lot.

 

[mike1956]

Mike, If it is 4 YUTES all fanned out, It means if you do not shoot first and fast, You will be a dead or extremely messed up victim because these have to be up to no good at all.
Showing you have a firearm will be no good because at least one of them will probably have one and will use it in a heartbeat.

Ronnie

PS:
Not only at a hospital, but at the mall or any dark parking lot.

YHGTBSM

 

[CDW4ME]

Approached by someone in a parking lot is what motivated me to carry a 2nd gun.

Years ago, Wal-Mart parking lot, unloading my cart, I see a "shady" guy approaching and it is obvious he is going to ask me something; I start shaking my head NO but he keeps coming, I continue shaking my head NO and now I'm saying NO, NO, - he turns around and walks to a van parked a couple lanes over that has another visible occupant waiting.

I had a Glock IWB but could not put my hand on it without revealing I'm carrying. I would have preferred that option in case "shady guy" did not abort the encounter. Lesson learned.

I do not have conversations with "shady" people approaching me at gas pumps, in parking lots, ect... All I'm going to be saying is NO. If they continue forth with me shaking my head NO and saying NO now I have the option to put my hand into pocket and onto a gun. I've not had them get within 6 ft nor do I want them too. My disdain for interaction is going to be blatant well prior to them getting that close. I'm 6'1 about 205# (not a small target) so a stranger that would continue approaching when I am obviously not wanting to interact possibly has dubious intent.

I saw the other thread about homeless guy at door.
I carry at home whenever I've got on shorts and seldom open the door for unexpected people.
Last week, doorbell rings and my German Shepherd immediately barks and barks (Bullmastiff doesn't bark for trivial things like doorbell). I wait a little and figure I'll retrieve the package left at the door, incorrectly assuming it was a Amazon delivery. I open the door and there is a guy standing there, he turns 45 degrees when my GSD sticks his head around me. The guy has Palm trees on a trailer he is selling. I say I have no room for a tree. He says he can make me a deal, I repeat louder I have no room for a tree. He tries to give me a card which I decline and close door. My son is humored by this, how my voice increased. I say well, I was still nice; I wasn't rude. I tell my wife about it when she gets home and she is disappointed I didn't buy a palm tree.

 

[FfNJGTFO]

I don't answer my door anymore. I've even disabled the old style door bell so it no longer rings. In fact, prior to Covid, we had a lot of sales people cold calling, plus the obligatory semi-annual visit of the Jehovah's Witnesses that only spoke Spanish. Don't see them anymore.


I have a "Blink Doorbell Cam" that I need to install. I also have other cameras above showing those who approach the door (but are too highly mounted to show them at the door). I also have a PTZ camera mounted right at the apex of my garage roof. I can see someone entering the driveway. I should get the Ring door bell cam installed so that I can communicate electronically with whomeer is at the door (I can, actually do that with the PTZ camera in the driveway).

Bottom line, I don't answer the door if I don't know the person. If any of y'all want to come visit, I'll text you in advance, and then you text me upon arrival at my driveway. I'll then open the garage door. It's what I have all my neighbors do.🤠

 

[racer88]

I don't answer my door anymore. I've even disabled the old style door bell so it no longer rings. In fact, prior to Covid, we had a lot of sales people cold calling, plus the obligatory semi-annual visit of the Jehovah's Witnesses that only spoke Spanish. Don't see them anymore.


I have a "Blink Doorbell Cam" that I need to install. I also have other cameras above showing those who approach the door (but are too highly mounted to show them at the door). I also have a PTZ camera mounted right at the apex of my garage roof. I can see someone entering the driveway. I should get the Ring door bell cam installed so that I can communicate electronically with whomeer is at the door (I can, actually do that with the PTZ camera in the driveway).

Bottom line, I don't answer the door if I don't know the person. If any of y'all want to come visit, I'll text you in advance, and then you text me upon arrival at my driveway. I'll then open the garage door. It's what I have all my neighbors do.🤠

I don't open the door to people I am not expecting.

 

[BeerHunter]

I don't answer my door anymore. I've even disabled the old style door bell so it no longer rings. In fact, prior to Covid, we had a lot of sales people cold calling, plus the obligatory semi-annual visit of the Jehovah's Witnesses that only spoke Spanish. Don't see them anymore.


I have a "Blink Doorbell Cam" that I need to install. I also have other cameras above showing those who approach the door (but are too highly mounted to show them at the door). I also have a PTZ camera mounted right at the apex of my garage roof. I can see someone entering the driveway. I should get the Ring door bell cam installed so that I can communicate electronically with whomeer is at the door (I can, actually do that with the PTZ camera in the driveway).

Bottom line, I don't answer the door if I don't know the person. If any of y'all want to come visit, I'll text you in advance, and then you text me upon arrival at my driveway. I'll then open the garage door. It's what I have all my neighbors do.🤠

Like you, racer and others, I do not answer/open the door to anyone I do not know, have not identified, and not expecting, either!

 

[Riverpigusmc]

You find my front door you're either delivering something or you're lost..in the latter case, I'll give ya prompt directions..back to the dirt road

 

[fuzzy03cls]

I'll start the panic on my alarm. See where they go. Continue to advance, I'll walk right up to them, hand them a church card & ask them to come to service. I don't panic or frighten. Just cause I'm armed doesn't mean squat IMHO. Go about your life.

 

[brownie]

I answer the doorbell by exiting the rear door, walking around through the RV area, then the gate and peak the corner while they're staring at the door.

I've given quite a few knocking on the door a near heart attack when I ask them what they want from the around the side of the house.

Opening the door to someone knocking/ringing? I think not

 

[artemis]

You find my front door you're either delivering something or you're lost..in the latter case, I'll give ya prompt directions..back to the dirt road

They have to get past yours to get to mine 😁

 

[Ronnie948]

One night at about 12:30 I had a knock on my door.I grabbed my G-19 and opened it to see my friend who is my across the street neighbor.
His wife was away and he apparently went to the bar and did not have the key to his house with him.
He just needed my key to his house to get in.
He did look at my Glock but said nothing at all.
Ronnie

PS:
My poor mother thought she murdered two people one day.
It was two Jehovah's witnesses and they only just fainted when she invited them to come into the house.

Sorry, I just had to put this one in

 

[deadeyedick]

I don't answer my door anymore. I've even disabled the old style door bell so it no longer rings. In fact, prior to Covid, we had a lot of sales people cold calling, plus the obligatory semi-annual visit of the Jehovah's Witnesses that only spoke Spanish. Don't see them anymore.

When the Jehovah's Witnesses come to my door, I say "How the hell did you people find me? I'm in the Jehovah's Witness Protection Program!"

Then I stone them for blasphemy.

 

[Earl 007]

My property is fenced I just keep the gate locked and the dogs are in and out as they please ,there is a wireless doorbell on the gate next to the bad dog sign only 2 UPS guys have used it in about 5 years .The Jehovah's have met my dog and skip my house.