I'm likely to hand him a fiver and tell him to have a nice day. Much easier than firing up the smack talker and ass kicker.
Approached by a homeless aggressor
Scenario:
You've visited someone in the hospital and are returning to your vehicle in the large parking lot that at that hour has very few vehicles parked there. It was full when you parked where you could find a spot, but now it's sitting out on the open with no vehicles near it.
As you're crossing the lot with good SA, you spot what appears to be a homeless man who appears to be in his 40's or maybe 50's hanging around the peripheral of the lot. As you keep an eye on him, you notice you're now the object of his attention as he's now moving to intercept you in the lot or at your vehicle door.
He has no visible weapons on him, he's not carrying anything that could be used as a weapon expediently against you. Before you can get the car unlocked and enter and lock the doors, he's now within 6 feet of you and closing. He's not threatening you in any verbal way, but it's clear he's not going to give up the chance to ask for and get something from you [ usually money ].
What's your response going to be?
Confront him verbally to go away, back off, leave you alone?
What if he continues to aggress on your person?
Will you allow him to get closer than that 6 feet?
How will you enforce that distance if he moves closer?
Threaten grave bodily harm or death upon him by announcing your armed and will defend yourself if he closes on you?
Can you even draw and fire your sidearm before he can reach you and wrestle for the firearm if he decides to?
Now, he's closed to bad breath distance, you're continuing to tell him to move off/go away and he's ignored you and you've done nothing but verbally warn him to not approach. Is he an imminent threat of grave bodily harm or death to your person. If he's not, will you still draw your sidearm and threaten deadly force use if he doesn't back away and leave you alone?
Interested in hearing what others would do based on their strength, infirmities, skills sets or lack thereof.
You've visited someone in the hospital and are returning to your vehicle in the large parking lot that at that hour has very few vehicles parked there. It was full when you parked where you could find a spot, but now it's sitting out on the open with no vehicles near it.
As you're crossing the lot with good SA, you spot what appears to be a homeless man who appears to be in his 40's or maybe 50's hanging around the peripheral of the lot. As you keep an eye on him, you notice you're now the object of his attention as he's now moving to intercept you in the lot or at your vehicle door.
He has no visible weapons on him, he's not carrying anything that could be used as a weapon expediently against you. Before you can get the car unlocked and enter and lock the doors, he's now within 6 feet of you and closing. He's not threatening you in any verbal way, but it's clear he's not going to give up the chance to ask for and get something from you [ usually money ].
What's your response going to be?
Confront him verbally to go away, back off, leave you alone?
What if he continues to aggress on your person?
Will you allow him to get closer than that 6 feet?
How will you enforce that distance if he moves closer?
Threaten grave bodily harm or death upon him by announcing your armed and will defend yourself if he closes on you?
Can you even draw and fire your sidearm before he can reach you and wrestle for the firearm if he decides to?
Now, he's closed to bad breath distance, you're continuing to tell him to move off/go away and he's ignored you and you've done nothing but verbally warn him to not approach. Is he an imminent threat of grave bodily harm or death to your person. If he's not, will you still draw your sidearm and threaten deadly force use if he doesn't back away and leave you alone?
Interested in hearing what others would do based on their strength, infirmities, skills sets or lack thereof.
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Four yutes fanning out are much different critters than a homeless down-and-outer. Different situations merit different responses. I was going with the one that Brownie presented. The pack gets the up-to-ass-kicker response.I've done that too, Mike, but it's not my norm. Years ago when I worked in a fairly large city, I used to carry a book of matches with a $10 bill attached to it with a rubber band. I did that because I had this stupid idea that it would have enough mass to be able to toss it should I need to dump some cash and run in a bad situation. It sat for years in my left front pocket unused until early one evening some yutes (four of them, early 20s) chose me as their target of opportunity.
They wanted to "talk to me." I grabbed the matchbook and said words to the effect of I'd like to stay and chat but I had someplace important to be, so how about I spring for some beers and maybe we could meet up some other time. Then I tossed it about halfway between us, with us being maybe 25 feet apart. All four sets of eyes went right to that ten-spot and I got my arse out of there, down the street, and into my car while they went for the cash. I couldn't believe it - it worked!
I wouldn't expect it to work today, I'm much older and lot slower. They'd take the ten spot then run me down before I made it to the vehicle. Not bad enough to get mugged, but knowing I paid them ahead of time would just be too humiliating for me.
YHGTBSMMike, If it is 4 YUTES all fanned out, It means if you do not shoot first and fast, You will be a dead or extremely messed up victim because these have to be up to no good at all.
Showing you have a firearm will be no good because at least one of them will probably have one and will use it in a heartbeat.
Ronnie
PS:
Not only at a hospital, but at the mall or any dark parking lot.
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