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Rick, or anyone out there. I’ve been going through some 1911s today and came across one that I’ve never fired. It’s a Colt officers model slide and barrel on an RIA frame. It was built by Arnel Bernardo, the head gunsmith at Armscor for me a few years back.

The trigger is nice and measures between four and 4 1/2 pounds but I’m just not used to the recoil spring. If it is cocked, the first almost an inch of travel with the slide takes very minimal pressure and it stiffens up as it reaches the extreme of slide movement. I’m sure Arnel knows what he was doing but I was a little concerned it might batter the frame.

Any thoughts on a stiffer recoil spring set up for this unusual combination? It is a steel frame, maybe I could just shoot it and look for wear. The slide has a flat top with tiny sights and I’d welcome any suggestions on better sights. Frankly, it’s really tough to find anything that fits this one.
 

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I've been jones'n for a Officer sized 1911 for quite a while. Hope you get your issue sorted and I'm betting Rick McC is a guy that can help! (y)
 

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Have you taken it apart? Some builders used dual recoil springs.
may be what you are feeling is initial take up of just the one and as it gets closer to back all the way both are compressed. Could be?
I’d field strip it and clean it, take lots of pics before I put it back together of the insides and then shoot like twenty to thirty rounds out of it. Take it apart again and see what you see. If it still looks the same shoot it some more. Check it after a couple hundred rounds if it works properly. When you take it apart check to see how the rear of the barrel feet are impacting the frame.
you’ll be able to tell when firing it if it’s beating itself to death. It may be snappy but shouldn’t feel like the slide is slamming into the frame.
 

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Ahhh Hah! The guide rod act like a piston and that’s where the second spring is correct? Thats where the ‘extra’ effort comes in at the back of the stroke.
That's exactly what he's looking at sir. They've been making those for decades. Had one installed in a commander back in the early 90's.

OP, it's fine, go shoot it with confidence, yes the builder knew what he was doing. Haven't seen one of those guide rods in some time.
 

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Thanks for chiming in brownie. I’ve had those for a long time too but they just didn’t seem as light. I just pulled out a Caspian titanium framed Commander 1911 in 357 sig. that has that same type assembly and it just seems stronger. I guess I’ll go out and give it a try at the range.
 

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Well, it shot fine. I shot steel and brought a couple other pistols for comparison. The Colt Officer shot about as well as a Ruger lightweight commander but the Dan Wesson CCO seemed a little more accurate than both. The 45 rounds really made the steel ring and swing.

For the heck of it I brought out my 1911 in .460 Rowland and it knocked the middle silhouette off its mount. It has a 24 or 26 pound recoil spring and really needs it. I shot one round from it and figured that was enough. If anyone needs me I’ll be inside soaking my hand.
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Cool little pistol and I’m glad it shot well. I need another 1911, maybe a full size this time. Hmmmm.


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I got a Colt Series 80 Officers Stainless as the second firearm I ever bought over 25 years ago. I carried it for may years too. Great gun! (y)
 

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If the bowtie is machined correctly, should be no worries
 
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I never have trouble with the neighbors, zoned agricultural. I try not to shoot more than once a week and 15 minutes at a time.

I'm sure that .460 Rowland woke ‘em up though. It was really loud and just blew the center silhouette right off it’s mounting. 1575 FPS, 1019 foot-pounds muzzle energy. It hit the steel like a freakin RPG.
 

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Another 1911 question. Does anyone know the exact size of the Novak sights on a Dan Wesson CCO? I have the Truglo TFX on a couple pistols and want to order another pair for the CCO.They have a combination of fiber-optic and tritium that really works well for me.
 

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Is it not a standard rear sight cut? Same as a government model.????


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I’ve researched and the rear sight is a fake Novák called a Kensight. I had the gunsmith at Okeechobee put the TFX sights on two other 1911s and I really like them.

It is a problem as I see different measurements for Novák sights and I’m just not sure which one fits. I guess I’ll reach out to Dan Wesson today. I may just put the same sights on the STI Escort. My sight pusher has been idle too long.
 

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Didn’t realize there was a fake Novak cut, thanks for the info.


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I think it is a legitimate Novak cut with a fake Novak sight. Novak has a lengthy discussion on their website about which manufactures use legitimate and which manufacturers use fake Novak sights. I thought it was going to be easy and I just ordered “Novák sights”
 

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My mistake, I misunderstood.


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