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    http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...ing-locations/

    SUMMARY: The Department of Justice is considering amending the regulations of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) to require licensed manufacturers, licensed importers, and nonlicensed makers to place identification markings on the outer tube of firearm silencers and firearm mufflers. The Department wishes to gather information and comments from the public and industry concerning whether or not the regulations should be amended.
    In a nutshell, they want to standardize where the serial number on your can is placed. Right now, it can go almost anywhere, which actually is beneficial, since that leads to devices like the oil filter adapter.

    So basically it seems to be a shot in the direction of non-traditional (though serialized) suppressor devices.

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    You can blame the NFATCA for that one too. I don't know what the hell those guys are smoking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianB View Post
    You can blame the NFATCA for that one too. I don't know what the hell those guys are smoking.
    Who the hell are they, and where did they come from?

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    https://www.facebook.com/NFATCA

    God, they flip-flop like crazy.


    The petition sent by the NFATCA to ATF Director Sullivan in 2008 represented the direction and guidance of the firearm suppressor community in 2008. The request was, in fact, driven by multiple requests by the manufacturers. 2008 was a different time, with different products in the marketplace, different manufacturing techniques and different best practices. Waiting 8 years to address those concerns is problematic. The current market, products, techniques and best practices bear no resemblance to the past. The concerns expressed in 2008 are not applicable to today.
    As such, the NFATCA will withdraw its petition and urges ATF to recognize that exclusive tube marking does not address the varied innovation of legal firearms in the marketplace. Marking placement should encourage accurate identification for tracing and documentation purposes and should maximize consumer value. In light of the fact that any part of a suppressor is deemed to be a suppressor, this can be accomplished by allowing marking to be placed wherever and however the manufacturer chooses, as long as the minimum height and depth requirements are met.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pod View Post
    Who the hell are they, and where did they come from?
    They have done some very good work in the past and have used their close ties to ATF to accomplish some things that are assets to the NFA community. They also worked tirelessly to get rid of the CLEO signoff and were poised for the elimination of the signoff without any strings attached when ATF decided to take their request to eliminate the CLEO signoff and used it to create 41P which threatened to expand the CLEO signoff to all responsible persons of all entities. The ATF seized upon some language in NFATCA's petition that I believe was very poorly considered on their (NFATCAs) part. Fortunately 41P ended up eliminating the signoff for everyone, although it added a new notification requirement for everyone (which is a bit of a nuisance but at least not a barrier to acquisition).

    Now we apparently have another petition that was submitted by the NFATCA - albeit 8 years ago. The NFA community was seriously pissed off about the prior petition (that resulted in 41P) because ATF hinted at some comments from the petition that seemed egregious and NFATCA refused to publish the content of the petition for all to see. I see another huge debacle coming with this suppressor petition.

    What a mess.
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