From the (liberally biased) AP:
"The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt
Wait. That can never happen here..
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Almost 5 instances per day, counting Saturdays, Sundays, and Holidays. That's not excessive at all.
I would like to know...
of these 3,500 red flag orders, how many cases resulted in the firearms being returned?
The answer to that question should prove conclusively whether this law is any good or not.
Another question is why doesn't the article even mention the outcomes?
You would think that's the best part of the story? Why leave it out? Laziness?
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“The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution.”
-- Thomas Jefferson, Third President of the United States
"Those who 'abjure' violence can only do so because others are commuting violence on their behalf."
-- George Orwell
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-- Herbert Spencer
From what I gather this is a lie technically. The red flag law itself has not been used 3500 times. There's other laws where the seizure of firearms is proscribed. For example, a temporary restraining order. If you ever read the text of one of those in this state, the TRO explicitly has a provision that the respondent has to turn over any guns he or she owns for the duration of the order.
So have 3500 parties had their guns seized in the state over the past two years? Yeah, probably. But were all the cases red flag law related? Not even close.
Also, it points out the pointlessness (among other things) of a red flag law. Existing legislation can be used to detain, disarm, and arrest people who are doing the things described in the article. No new legislation was needed. But of course, someone had to "do something" because a bunch of harridans decided to bathe themselves in the blood of dead children in some sort of macabre ritual to the god of statism.
And one cannot use the "cops don't have enough options" excuse. They have millions of options, easily accessible by the supercomputer in their pocket, or the crappy Windblows laptop in their cruiser.
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