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    Florida red flag law used 3500 times in 2 years

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    Interesting, Bob.
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    Wait. That can never happen here..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverpigusmc View Post
    Wait. That can never happen here..
    Yeah, because we’re...
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    Almost 5 instances per day, counting Saturdays, Sundays, and Holidays. That's not excessive at all.

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    I would like to know...
    of these 3,500 red flag orders, how many cases resulted in the firearms being returned?

    The answer to that question should prove conclusively whether this law is any good or not.

    Another question is why doesn't the article even mention the outcomes?
    You would think that's the best part of the story? Why leave it out? Laziness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anduril View Post
    I would like to know...
    of these 3,500 red flag orders, how many cases resulted in the firearms being returned?

    The answer to that question should prove conclusively whether this law is any good or not.

    Another question is why doesn't the article even mention the outcomes?
    You would think that's the best part of the story? Why leave it out? Laziness?
    Could it be because to the AP and the authors, editors, and publishers of the anti-2A media that rely on AP reports, the mere taking of firearms away from citizens is the only real goal of their agenda?
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    From what I gather this is a lie technically. The red flag law itself has not been used 3500 times. There's other laws where the seizure of firearms is proscribed. For example, a temporary restraining order. If you ever read the text of one of those in this state, the TRO explicitly has a provision that the respondent has to turn over any guns he or she owns for the duration of the order.

    So have 3500 parties had their guns seized in the state over the past two years? Yeah, probably. But were all the cases red flag law related? Not even close.

    Also, it points out the pointlessness (among other things) of a red flag law. Existing legislation can be used to detain, disarm, and arrest people who are doing the things described in the article. No new legislation was needed. But of course, someone had to "do something" because a bunch of harridans decided to bathe themselves in the blood of dead children in some sort of macabre ritual to the god of statism.

    And one cannot use the "cops don't have enough options" excuse. They have millions of options, easily accessible by the supercomputer in their pocket, or the crappy Windblows laptop in their cruiser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pod View Post
    From what I gather this is a lie technically. The red flag law itself has not been used 3500 times. There's other laws where the seizure of firearms is proscribed. For example, a temporary restraining order. If you ever read the text of one of those in this state, the TRO explicitly has a provision that the respondent has to turn over any guns he or she owns for the duration of the order.

    So have 3500 parties had their guns seized in the state over the past two years? Yeah, probably. But were all the cases red flag law related? Not even close.

    Also, it points out the pointlessness (among other things) of a red flag law. Existing legislation can be used to detain, disarm, and arrest people who are doing the things described in the article. No new legislation was needed. But of course, someone had to "do something" because a bunch of harridans decided to bathe themselves in the blood of dead children in some sort of macabre ritual to the god of statism.

    And one cannot use the "cops don't have enough options" excuse. They have millions of options, easily accessible by the supercomputer in their pocket, or the crappy Windblows laptop in their cruiser.
    Very insightful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick McC. View Post
    Very insightful.
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