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    Quote Originally Posted by High Seas Drifter View Post
    EDIT: If that was the gun, I'll bet he carried with a full mag and didn't have one in the chamber, for whatever reason.





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    Quote Originally Posted by High Seas Drifter View Post
    EDIT: If that was the gun, I'll bet he carried with a full mag and didn't have one in the chamber, for whatever reason.
    I'm thinking that if that's all the ammo he had access to on on him, then it's probably more likely that he "creatively acquired" the weapon from a private source (ie. took it from his parents or another adult) or some other source that didn't have extra ammo with the weapon. Meaning that he never "purchased the weapon" from a legal or otherwise source. If he could, he could also purchase more ammo. If I were his parents or family, I'd start to be very nervous now (Calif. storage/protection liability laws, etc).


    Quote Originally Posted by High Seas Drifter View Post
    Yeah, as much as I hate to admit it, I've gone there in a few of these types of instances. Can governments really be as twisted as the movies make them out to be? Do I really even want to know?


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    One would never want to think that there is nothing more there than just "coincidence," but "facts" of this nature are hard to ignore/dismiss. In this case, though, we're talking about a 16 y/o youth that did it on his birthday. That points me much more in the direction of "mental health" than anything else. While I would certainly never put it past the dems to "arrange" such a tragedy (i.e have someone "take one for the team" in the spirit of turning the narrative away from their problems), I would expect it more easy for them to get an adult to "take one for the team..." not necessarily a teenager that still has a lot to live for... potentially.


    Last I heard, the BG is in "critical" condition as of 4am ET this morning. We'll see if he lives to tell the tale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by High Seas Drifter View Post

    Yeah, as much as I hate to admit it, I've gone there in a few of these types of instances. Can governments really be as twisted as the movies make them out to be? Do I really even want to know?


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    i'll just leave you with this...epstein didnt kill himself...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FfNJGTFO View Post

    One would never want to think that there is nothing more there than just "coincidence," but "facts" of this nature are hard to ignore/dismiss. In this case, though, we're talking about a 16 y/o youth that did it on his birthday. That points me much more in the direction of "mental health" than anything else. While I would certainly never put it past the dems to "arrange" such a tragedy (i.e have someone "take one for the team" in the spirit of turning the narrative away from their problems), I would expect it more easy for them to get an adult to "take one for the team..." not necessarily a teenager that still has a lot to live for... potentially.


    Last I heard, the BG is in "critical" condition as of 4am ET this morning. We'll see if he lives to tell the tale.
    and i'll leave you with this...who better and easier to coerce into a shooting than a mentally ill teen?...and with my experience with teens one could easily be turned mentally ill with little effort as they are stressed enough with a sub standard education system that tortures them for information it fails to provide...
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    Here's how the exchange will go, if you discuss this incident with a progressive statist:

    Statist: We need to pass (more gun laws).

    Us: Let's start with which laws the murderous sociopath broke. Which laws were broken (ie... ignored) by the perpetrator?

    Statist: I don't know. I just know we have to do SOMETHING.

    Us: So, you don't know which laws he broke? Really? You can't think of any?

    Statist: I don't know and I don't care. We need to have more gun control.

    Us: So, you don't care which existing laws were broken / ignored?

    Statist: No.

    Us: OK.... Perhaps you could tell me which NEW laws would have prevented this heinous crime?

    Statist: I don't know... maybe background checks? Get rid of 'assault weapons'? Raise the age to buy a gun? More gun free zones? Ban high-capacity clipazines?

    Us: He was 16 years old. He can't buy a gun already. Background checks are already required for those who are of age. He didn't use a so-called 'assault weapon.' And, they're already effectively banned in California. He used a low-capacity magazine. The school is already a 'gun free zone.' So... Now what? What NEW law do you propose would have stopped this SUICIDAL maniac?

    Statist: I don't know, and I don't care. Just get rid of the guns. I have a right to feel safe.

    Us: Aha.
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    The DEM O CRAPS will tell you that if there were "NO" guns in the possession of any American.
    Things like this could never happen.
    They would tell you:
    No more mass shootings
    No more gun related crimes
    No more suicides
    No more children accidentally shooting their friends or themselves.
    No more armed home invasions.
    No more armed car jackings
    No more armed robberies
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    No more constitution protecting the rights of all Americans because when the 2nd. amendment is gone, The rest will fall like domino's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie948 View Post
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    No more constitution protecting the rights of all Americans because when the 2nd. amendment is gone, The rest will fall like domino's.
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    That’s my fear and a very real threat. If the 2nd falls, what’s next?

    Free speech and Christianity seems to be a couple things the left hates as much as the 2nd. If the 2nd falls, setting a precedent, I suspect the 1st would be next. Then we’re truly


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    I don't believe the idea the dems are behind this kid shooting others to take the focus off the impeachment hearings. They are capable of more than we could imagine [ truth is stranger than fiction usually ] but I'm going to have to see a bridge built before I walk into that subjective thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brownie View Post
    I don't believe the idea the dems are behind this kid shooting others to take the focus off the impeachment hearings.
    I agree. Especially recently, the Democratic leadership has been doing a whole lot of REALLY STUPID STUFF! Are they even smart enough to arrange such a conspiracy, and keep it quiet? I'm really beginning to doubt it!

    Old Mafia saying: Two can keep a secret if one of them is dead. I honestly don't think the Democratic leadership of today is smart enough to keep a conspiracy like this a secret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denverd0n View Post
    I agree. Especially recently, the Democratic leadership has been doing a whole lot of REALLY STUPID STUFF! Are they even smart enough to arrange such a conspiracy, and keep it quiet? I'm really beginning to doubt it!

    Old Mafia saying: Two can keep a secret if one of them is dead. I honestly don't think the Democratic leadership of today is smart enough to keep a conspiracy like this a secret.
    I agree as well - not a conspiracy.
    In fact, I'll offer that it's just human nature.

    Yes - It's human nature for some small subset of the teenage population to take guns to school and kill their classmates.
    It's human nature for some adults to murder their spouse and children during a heated divorce or custody battle.
    It's human nature for some people to just kill other humans.

    It that's a conspiracy, it's been going on for as long as we humans have been on the planet.
    And if you look at in those terms, it's awfully naïve of us to think a few gun laws here are there are going to usurp millennia of human experience.

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