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    Feds demand turnover of gun scope app info

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    One wonders how long before all the gun apps draw this kind of attention.

    The data base collection on gun owners is growing......
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    Quote Originally Posted by joecarry View Post
    One wonders how long before all the gun apps draw this kind of attention.

    The data base collection on gun owners is growing......
    This is a far larger issue than just gun apps and gun owners' data.
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    OMG, I use "SCOPE" after brushing my teeth at least two or three times a day.
    Now I have to worry about this crap.
    It never ends with these Bloomberg & Soros New World Order owned socialist democrat Trump & America hating fools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadeyedick View Post
    This is a far larger issue than just gun apps and gun owners' data.
    Bingo!
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    The app is used on a N/V capable scope. N/V is restricted from being sent outside the country. They are trying to keep a handle on N/V being sent overseas. The app would prove easier to document than the scope sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brownie View Post
    The app is used on a N/V capable scope. N/V is restricted from being sent outside the country. They are trying to keep a handle on N/V being sent overseas. The app would prove easier to document than the scope sales.

    Just another WGAS, it's nothing to get your panties in a bunch over
    That was my take on it as well. Too bad they waited until the end of the article to mention the reason for requesting the info, as some folks probably wouldn’t read the entire article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick McC. View Post
    That was my take on it as well. Too bad they waited until the end of the article to mention the reason for requesting the info, as some folks probably wouldn’t read the entire article.
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    I think there are less intrusive means of getting the information than requiring a complete data dump on all users. No one with any sense of patriotism wants to see useful technology exported to our enemies. However, the federal government should use a method calculated to preserve the privacy rights of users of the app, which privacy rights have been determined by court decision to be one of the rights guaranteed by the Bill of Rights, instead of resorting to an overbroad discovery method.
    The Constitution acts as a limitation on the powers of government, or at least that was the intention of the Founders. We ignore that at our peril. If we are willing to concede that the Constitution is no impediment to government action when it comes to a right we do not value highly, because of convenience, or in order to achieve a result we think is desirable, or for any other reason, it makes it more difficult for us to argue against the infringement of a right we do value when someone attacks that right. The entire Bill of Rights is important and we should not countenance any violation of any right guaranteed by the Constitution if, in the end, we wish to have any rights left to us whatsoever. The process of chipping away at fundamental rights has been ongoing for many years, it needs to stop or we will end up like the citizens of Great Britain, who can be arrested and imprisioned for expressing an opinion the authorities deem harmful and who have no right to the possession of firearms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArthurDent View Post
    I think there are less intrusive means of getting the information than requiring a complete data dump on all users. No one with any sense of patriotism wants to see useful technology exported to our enemies. However, the federal government should use a method calculated to preserve the privacy rights of users of the app, which privacy rights have been determined by court decision to be one of the rights guaranteed by the Bill of Rights, instead of resorting to an overbroad discovery method.
    The Constitution acts as a limitation on the powers of government, or at least that was the intention of the Founders. We ignore that at our peril. If we are willing to concede that the Constitution is no impediment to government action when it comes to a right we do not value highly, because of convenience, or in order to achieve a result we think is desirable, or for any other reason, it makes it more difficult for us to argue against the infringement of a right we do value when someone attacks that right. The entire Bill of Rights is important and we should not countenance any violation of any right guaranteed by the Constitution if, in the end, we wish to have any rights left to us whatsoever. The process of chipping away at fundamental rights has been ongoing for many years, it needs to stop or we will end up like the citizens of Great Britain, who can be arrested and imprisioned for expressing an opinion the authorities deem harmful and who have no right to the possession of firearms.
    Suggestions of possible alternatives? More importantly, what violation of rights do you believe are being violated on this matter?
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