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    Carry in National, State, county parks

    Just recently a law was passed that allowed a licensed concealed weapon permit holder to carry concealed in national, state, and county parks. Can someone please point me to the law, so I may read it and note it for others.

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    Are you certain that this passed? Last I was aware, it was still pending. I can't find anything documenting that it was, which is peculiar since the NRA would have it posted on their site.

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    I was pretty certain it passed October 1, 2006, I remember seeing a post about it, now nothing. Reading the current 790.06 (12) no mention of National/State parks as places unauthorized to carry

    790.06
    (12) No license issued pursuant to this section shall authorize any person to carry a concealed weapon or firearm into any place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05;
    any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station;
    any detention facility, prison, or jail;
    any courthouse; any courtroom, except that nothing in this section would preclude a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon in his or her courtroom;
    any polling place; any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district; any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof;
    any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms; any school administration building;
    any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose;
    any elementary or secondary school facility;
    any career center;
    any college or university facility unless the licensee is a registered student, employee, or faculty member of such college or university and the weapon is a stun gun or nonlethal electric weapon or device designed solely for defensive purposes and the weapon does not fire a dart or projectile;
    inside the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport, provided that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal, which firearm is encased for shipment for purposes of checking such firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft;
    or any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law. Any person who willfully violates any provision of this subsection commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

    The only part of this status that gives concern is the part in red, the Carrying of Firearms prohibited by federal law.

    I know that just recently the Florida Department of Wildlife has made changes to all the rules pertaining to WMA'a and the Ocala National forest, now allowing carry of concealed weapons by license holders.

    But I am still concerned about the local county park, like Fort Desoto, or city parks.....

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    Thumbs up CCW in Fl State Parks

    If you look at the department of environmental protection, division of recreation and parks rule no 62D-2.014 activities and recreation. It will answer your question of ccw in The Fl State Parks. I don't know if all the park people know the change in the law but i carry a copy of it with me when i carry in the park when hiking etc just to be safe. Law implemented 4-30-07

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    National Park carry is still prohibited.
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    you can carry year round now in florida's state parks, all of our national forests in florida and in most of the wildlife management areas as of oct.2006. pull up myfwc.com and you can see which wildlife management areas you cannot carry in. FEEL SECURE!

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    National Park carry will soon be legal. The final rule allows NP carry if you're legal to carry in the state where the NP is located.
    http://www.doi.gov/issues/Final%20Rule.pdf
    Assistant Secretary of the Interior for Fish and Wildlife and Parks Lyle Laverty today announced that the Department of the Interior has finalized updated regulations governing the possession of firearms in national parks and wildlife refuges. The final rule, which updates existing regulations, would allow an individual to carry a concealed weapon in national parks and wildlife refuges if, and only if, the individual is authorized to carry a concealed weapon under state law in the state in which the national park or refuge is located. The update has been submitted to the Federal Register for publication and is available to the public on www.doi.gov.
    The rule will take effect 30 days after it's published in the Federal Register.
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    Concealed Carry In Parks and National Reserves


    Here is the new law.
    Concealed Carry Will Be Allowed
    in National Parks and Wildlife Refuges


    The US Department of the Interior announced its final firearms policy update Friday, December 5, 2008. Under the new policy, concealed carry of firearms will be allowed in national parks and wildlife refuges beginning at the time the rule goes into effect sometime before Barack Obama takes office on January 20.
    IMPORTANT NOTE: it is not yet legal to carry in national parks or national wildlife refuges. The ruling which allows concealed carry in these places will take effect 30 days after it appears in the Federal Register (which it will do next week). The ruling should be effective no later than January 12, and is further limited in applying only to states which do not have additional laws which prohibit carry in national parks or wildlife refuges.
    The press release from the US DOI reads as follows:
    Assistant Secretary of the Interior for Fish and Wildlife and Parks Lyle Laverty announced that the Department of the Interior has finalized updated regulations governing the possession of firearms in national parks and wildlife refuges. The final rule, which updates existing regulations, would allow an individual to carry a concealed weapon in national parks and wildlife refuges if, and only if, the individual is authorized to carry a concealed weapon under state law in the state in which the national park or refuge is located. The update has been submitted to the Federal Register for publication and is available to the public on www.doi.gov.
    Existing regulations regarding the carrying of firearms remain otherwise unchanged, particularly limitations on poaching and target practice and prohibitions on carrying firearms in federal buildings.
    "America was founded on the idea that the federal and state governments work together to serve the public and preserve our natural resources," Laverty said. "The Department's final regulation respects this tradition by allowing individuals to carry concealed firearms in federal park units and refuges to the extent that they could lawfully do so under state law. This is the same basic approach adopted by the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and the United States Forest Service (USFS), both of which allow visitors to carry weapons consistent with applicable federal and state laws."
    On February 22, 2008, Interior Secretary Kempthorne responded to letters from 51 Senators, both Democrats and Republicans, as well as from the Chairman and Ranking Member of the House Natural Resources Committee, urging him to update existing regulations that prohibit the carrying of firearms in national parks and wildlife refuges. In his response, the Secretary directed Assistant Secretary for Fish and Wildlife and Parks Lyle Laverty "to develop and propose for public comment by April 30 Federal regulations that will update firearms policies on these lands to reflect existing Federal laws (such as those prohibiting weapons in Federal buildings) and the laws by which the host states govern transporting and carrying of firearms on their analogous public lands."
    Changes in the final regulations from those originally proposed in April were developed as the result of public comments. In particular, comments expressed concern about the feasibility of implementing regulations which directly linked the carrying of concealed firearms in national parks and wildlife refuges to the ability of an individual to carry a concealed firearm on analogous state lands. The final regulations remove that potential logistical hurdle.
    The existing regulations, as currently in effect, were adopted in 1981 for national wildlife refuges and in 1983 for national parks. Since that time many states have enacted new firearms policies. Currently, 48 states have passed legislation allowing for the lawful possession of concealed weapons.
    "The Department believes that in managing parks and refuges we should, as appropriate, make every effort to give the greatest respect to the democratic judgments of State legislatures with respect to concealed firearms," said Laverty. "Federal agencies have a responsibility to recognize the expertise of the States in this area, and federal regulations should be developed and implemented in a manner that respects state prerogatives and authority."
    For more detailed information, view the text of the final rule at the following link: www.doi.gov/issues/Final%20Rule.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepdog27 View Post
    Just recently a law was passed that allowed a licensed concealed weapon permit holder to carry concealed in national, state, and county parks. Can someone please point me to the law, so I may read it and note it for others.

    Thanks
    It wasn't a law, it was a rule change by the National Park Service. Firearms in the National Parks are now governed by the laws of the state in which the park resides.

    I expect this will quickly be reversed under The Messiah and his anti-American buddies.
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